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The problem involves a sledge loaded with bricks being pulled at a constant speed on a horizontal surface, with considerations of tension in the rope and frictional forces. The subject area includes concepts of tension, friction, and forces in equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the tension in the rope by considering the weight of the sledge and the frictional force. They express confusion over the impact of the angle of the rope on the normal force and friction. Some participants question the relevance of static friction in this context, while others discuss the calculation of the normal force.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the forces involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the calculation of the normal force, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or final answer.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as stated, including the given mass, angle, and coefficient of kinetic friction. There is a noted confusion regarding the application of static versus kinetic friction in this scenario.

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Hi, I am having some major difficulties with this problem:

A sledge loaded with bricks has a total mass of 18.5 kg and is pulled at constant speed by a rope inclined at 20.2° above the horizontal. The sledge moves a distance of 20.9 m on a horizontal surface. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the sledge and surface is 0.500.

What is the tension in the rope?


I do not know what I am doing wrong, because every answer I get is incorrect.

So far I can figure out that the sledge weighs 181.3N.
When calculating the Frictional Force (mu * N), I come up with 90.65
Because the sledge is moving at a constant speed, there is no acceleration, and therefore the Sum of the horizontal forces = 0.

That would mean, when drawing out a force diagram, the Horizontal F = 90.65, calculating the Hypotenuse (Tension in the rope) at 96.59.

But that's not the answer!
I realize that the Vertical force is present due to the angle of the rope, and would thus subtract from the initial weight of the box, which would change the Frictional Force, continuing on to change the vertical force again. It's just a big loop.

So where am I screwing up/What equation am i missing?


Thanks,
Magellanic
 
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mu=tanTheta=.368 I am pretty sure that this is the coefficient of static friction since they gave you the coefficient of kinetic fricition.
 
That doesn't make sense. Why do I need to know the static friction if the sled is in motion?
 
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Using the information given by the problem I also get the same answer.
 
Magellanic said:
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So far I can figure out that the sledge weighs 181.3N.
When calculating the Frictional Force (mu * N), I come up with 90.65
Because the sledge is moving at a constant speed, there is no acceleration, and therefore the Sum of the horizontal forces = 0...

You got N wrong, as it seems to me. N = m*g*cos(20.2) = 170.32 [N]. If the surface was horizontal, then N would equal 181.3 [N].
 

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