Solving the Conundrum of Three Positive Integers

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving three consecutive positive integers where the sum of the squares of the first two integers and the product of the last two is stated to equal 46. Participants are attempting to interpret the problem correctly and represent it mathematically.

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  • Participants discuss the initial equation proposed by the original poster and question its validity based on the parity of the terms involved. There is a suggestion that the problem may have been misinterpreted, with some considering alternative formulations of the equation.

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The discussion has evolved with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have provided insights into potential errors in the original setup, while others have confirmed the answer given in the source material, leading to a resolution for some participants.

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There is mention of uncertainty regarding the original problem's wording, with participants questioning whether the sum should be 46 or possibly another number, such as 45 or 96. The original poster expresses confusion about how the provided answer fits the stated conditions.

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1. Three consecutive positive integers are such that the sum of the squares of the first two and the product of the other two is 46. Find the numbers. Variables: x. Three numbers: (x), (x + 1), (x + 2)



2. (I think, although I'm not sure.) x2 + (x + 1)2 + (x + 1)(x + 2) = 46



3.
x2 + (x + 1)2 + (x + 1)(x + 2) = 46
⇒ x2 + x2 + 1 + 2x + x2 + 3x + 2 = 46
⇒ 3x2 + 5x + 3 = 46
⇒ 3x2 + 5x - 43 = 0
⇒ x2 + (5/3)x - 43/3 = 0/3
⇒ x2 + (2)(5/6)(x) + (5/3)2 - (5/3)2 - 43/3 = 0
⇒ (x + 5/6)2 = 43/3 + 25/36
⇒ (x + 5/6)2 = 516 + 25/36 = 541/36


Now this means x + 5/6 is NOT a perfect square. And that means the three consecutive positive integers will also not be positive integers.

That is my predicament, of which I seek riddance.
 
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hi aaronstonedd! welcome to pf! :smile:
aaronstonedd said:
1. Three consecutive positive integers are such that the sum of the squares of the first two and the product of the other two is 46. Find the numbers. Variables: x. Three numbers: (x), (x + 1), (x + 2)



2. (I think, although I'm not sure.) x2 + (x + 1)2 + (x + 1)(x + 2) = 46

well, that can't be right …

the first two terms are one odd and one even, and the third term is even, so the total is odd, ≠ 46 :redface:

perhaps it means the product of the outer two?

(and perhaps it means 96 ?)
 


So you're saying that even + odd + even = odd. That's right, because even + odd = odd. But it's also possible for three consecutive positive integers to be odd + even + odd which is equal to even!

Is the above argument valid?
 


Are you sure that the sum is not 45?

ehild
 


To ehild: Yes, I'm sure. Only the answer is given, from where I've got the question. The answer given is 4,5,6 although I'm not sure how that fits into the question's conditions.

The main problem I'm facing is interpreting the question and representing it mathematically.
 
1. Three consecutive positive integers are such that the sum of the square of the first and the product of the other two is 46. Find the numbers.

aaronstonedd said:
The answer given is 4,5,6

4*4 + 5*6 = 46 :wink:
 


tiny-tim said:
1. Three consecutive positive integers are such that the sum of the square of the first and the product of the other two is 46. Find the numbers.



4*4 + 5*6 = 46 :wink:

Ingenious! :cool:

ehild
 


Thank you tiny-tim, for correcting the question. I've often noticed that if a question seems absurd or solving it gives odd results, then something in the question is probably wrong :wink:.

My query is solved. Thanks all!
 
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