Solving the Equation y'(x) = 1/(x^N+1)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around solving the differential equation y'(x) = 1/(x^N + 1). Participants explore various methods of integration, including polynomial factorization, partial fraction decomposition, and the use of hypergeometric functions. The conversation includes both specific cases (such as N=4) and general approaches for different values of N.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the factorization of polynomials related to the nth roots of -1 to approach the integral.
  • Another participant provides specific roots for the case when N=4 and discusses how to factor the polynomial x^4 + 1 into complex-valued first-order polynomials.
  • There is mention of using partial fraction decomposition to simplify the integration process, leading to logarithmic and arctangent functions as potential results.
  • Some participants express curiosity about more general results regarding coefficients in fractional decomposition and whether a generalized theory exists.
  • Mathematica's output for the integral involving hypergeometric functions is presented, with one participant noting the complexity of this solution.
  • Several participants discuss the possibility of computing the integral without hypergeometric functions when N is an integer, proposing series expansions as an alternative method.
  • There is a back-and-forth regarding the derivation of coefficients in the context of the integral, with some participants seeking clarification on specific steps in the calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the methods of integration discussed, but there are competing views on the best approach, particularly regarding the use of hypergeometric functions versus simpler series expansions. The discussion remains unresolved on the generalization of results for arbitrary N.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that the approaches discussed may depend on the specific values of N and that assumptions about the convergence of series or the applicability of certain functions may not be universally valid.

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Hello Gregg and Jackmell

Is that true for the general case? If so, sorry if I said it wasn't.

Yes that's true for the general case. But with + instead of - at denominator, the general term of the series will not be real. On theoretical viewpoint, it doesn't matter : after integration the general term will be a complex logarithm. On the other hand, further simplifications will be laborious.
In order to remain in the real range, it's better to start with a similar series, but with a quadric at denominator. The integation isn't too difficult and leads to a general term including real logarithm and arctangent. (i.e.: attachement)
 

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