Solving the Lift Coefficient for Wind Tunnel Test on NACA 23012 Aerofoil

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The discussion revolves around calculating the lift coefficient for a NACA 23012 aerofoil based on wind tunnel test results. Participants are addressing issues related to unit conversions, measurement techniques, and the interpretation of pressure readings in the context of aerodynamic testing.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their method for calculating lift force and expresses uncertainty about the accuracy of their lift coefficient due to potential errors in airspeed measurement.
  • Another participant suggests that the airspeed (Vw) should be converted to meters per second, indicating a possible misunderstanding of the units used in the wind tunnel measurements.
  • A participant questions the clarity of the unit "75mm/water" and requests clarification on its meaning, suggesting it might refer to a pressure reading rather than a speed measurement.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of "mm of water" as a pressure measurement, with one participant providing a conversion factor for mmH2O to Pascals.
  • Some participants debate the notation used, particularly the capitalization of "M" in "0.075M," with differing opinions on whether it refers to Mach number or meters.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the units and their implications for the calculations. Multiple competing views on the correct understanding of the measurements and their conversions remain present.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the measurement techniques used in the wind tunnel and the specific definitions of the units involved, which may affect the calculations of lift and airspeed.

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I completed a wind tunnel test on a NACA 23012 aerofoil last week and am now writing a report on my findings! I need some help with working out the lift Coefficient as i seem to be going wrong somewhere.

Cl= L/.5 ρ Vw² S

To find the lift force i am subtracting the lift force which was necessary to zero the wind tunnel balance by the measured lift force
so: L=Lm-Lz

For ρ(air density) i am using 1.2kgm as this was not measured at the time of the tests.

This is where i believe i could be wrong for Vw(air speed within the working section) i am using the wind tunnel speed .075M water or 75mm water which was the speed we performed the test at. Would this be the speed in the working area if the projection manometer is connected differentially to static pressure tappings in the wall of the wind tunnel upstream of the contraction zone and within the working section. I am gusing it is but my calculations are well out of what i would believe to be normal Lift coeffients at the angles used!

Help and advice with many thanks

Rob

Ps My lift force Lz is 685 lb does this sound normall considering the lift force Lm was 76.3 lb at 0 degrees angle of attack??
 
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Ok i have a feeling i have identifed the error! I beleve that the problem is that Vw needs to be in m/s.

Does anybody know how it is possible to convert 75mm/water in m/s??

Rob
 
I'm not familiar with drag testing, so I don't think I can offer assistance there. As for unit conversion, can you clarify?

"75mm per water" wouldn't make sense to most people.

"75 mm of water per second" would. If that is the case, you would need the surface area, since \frac{\Delta V}{t} = A\frac{dx}{dt}
 
Not quite sure to be honest! I would imagine it probally is per mm of water per second! As for surface area would this be the surface area of the fan ie where the 75mm water/second is coming from??

Is it possible to do it this way as well!

1/2 ρ Vw²= Pe-Pw/1-(Aw/Ae)² (the dynamic pressure)

So:

1/2 1.225 Vw²= 785.78 N/m²
Cheers

Rob
 
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In our end of the business, notation like .075M is usually a reference to Mach number when the M is capitalized like it is. You'll most likely have to calculate the speed of sound in the medium and then calculate the velocity from there.
 
I took millimetres/water to be an incorrectly written pressure reading, - millimetres of water (mmH2O), especially since this is how you'd likely measure air flow in a wind tunnel setup (in a U-tube manometer, with water as your medium). It's like mmHg as with many medical pressure readings, but with water instead of mercury. The capital M is merely metres.

1 mmH2O = 9.79706 Pa, at 15 celsius.
 
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The capital M is a definite no-no. I thought the same thing though. The OP can check both pretty easy though.
 
I'm positive that the M refers to metres in this case. Shouldn't be a capital letter, but the scale is right (compare it with the millimetres), and metres of water is a standard measurement of a pressure differential for flow measurements.
 

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