Solving the Overturning Moment Problem: 4 Seconds

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The problem involves a uniform plank supported at two points with two boys walking on it, raising questions about the conditions under which the plank will overturn. The context includes concepts from mechanics, specifically moments and equilibrium.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the moments exerted by the boys and how their positions affect the stability of the plank. There is exploration of the conditions under which the moments become unbalanced, particularly focusing on the roles of the supports.

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Some participants have offered insights into the calculations related to moments and equilibrium, while others are seeking clarification on specific steps and reasoning. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the effects of removing one of the supports.

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There are references to specific values for gravitational acceleration and the weights of the boys, as well as the assumption that the plank is uniform. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the relationships between forces and moments without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


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In this problem, take g = 10 m s-2.
A uniform plank of length 14 m long and mass 20 kg is being supported at B and C as shown above.
Two boys X and Y of masses 20 kg and 50 kg respectively are right on top of the supports.
X starts to walk towards A and Y walks towards D at the same time.
If both boys walk at 1.0 m s-1, the plank begins to overturn after how many seconds?


Homework Equations


Clockwise moment = anticlockwise moment
fs=fs


The Attempt at a Solution


The answer given is 4seconds.
i can't work it out,really need help.
Need a little hint please.
Thanks.
 
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Imagine support C is not there. Imagine each boy has walked for 1 second. Each boy exerts a moment around B equal to is weight times his distance from B. If BoyY's moment is larger, the plank will want to rotate CW. But the plank doesn't rotate because support C is there. Will BoyX's moment eventually become larger? If so when?

Now do the same thing imagining that support B is not there.
 
Sup flood, this is what I got:

F_y equilibrium gives: B + C = 90g
Moment equilibrium about B gives: t = (C - 60g)/ 7.5g,

Where B and C are the reactions at B and C, and t is the time after X and Y start moving.

Recall that the reactions are given by:

B + C = 90g

I figured that since Y is heavier, the beam will overturn when all the weights are centered at C i.e. when B = 0 and C = 90. Subbing this into the moment eqbm equation, we get:

t = 30g/ 7.5g = 4 s

Which is the answer yea? How'd you get 1 s? Anyhows... yea let me know if that helped.

...
Kenny
 
Yea kenny lee your right.
Thanks a lot.
 
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Glad to be of help =)
 
But how did you get 7.5g anyway?
 
I've attached my working. Its Jpeg. Um you have a look, see if it makes sense. (or if its even right).

G luck
 

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Thanks a zillion for you effort and time.
God bless..
 
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