Solving the Physics of a Curling Stalemate

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The problem involves two contestants in a curling match disputing possession of a stone, with a focus on the forces acting on the stone and the conditions for static equilibrium. The mass of the stone and the contestants, along with the forces exerted, are provided, leading to questions about the forces involved and the coefficient of static friction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the stone and the implications of it not accelerating. Some express confusion about how to begin solving the problem, while others suggest drawing a diagram and listing the forces involved. There are mentions of relevant equations, but uncertainty remains about their application in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants seeking clarification on the problem setup and the application of physics principles. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to analyze forces and consider static equilibrium, but no consensus or clear direction has emerged yet.

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Participants note the absence of frictional forces in the initial analysis and the requirement for a minimum coefficient of static friction, which is under discussion. There is also a mention of the need for effort in problem-solving to receive assistance.

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Homework Statement


Two curling contestants dispute possession of a stone of mass 20.6 kg. The mass of contestant A is 58.9 kg, whereas that of contestant B is 101.7 kg. Contestant A pulls on the stone with a horizontal force of 15.1 N, but is unable to break contestant B’s grip. The result is a stalemate (the stone does not accelerate).

a) Neglecting (for now) frictional forces between the stone and the ice, what is the horizontal force that contestant B exerts on the stone? [Note: Indicate a pull (a force in contestant B’s direction) by a positive sign and a push (a force in contestant A’s direction) by a negative sign.]

b) What is the minimum coefficient of static friction required between the contestants and the ice (assume that it is the same for both contestants)?


Homework Equations


F=ma



The Attempt at a Solution


I do not even know where to start
 
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Diagram!
Show the forces acting on the curling rock.
Note that it does not accelerate.
 
I'm still a little confused on how to solve this. Can you please elaborate on how to solve this problem.
 
<--- rock ---->
The size of the forces was given - put them on the diagram.
Write that the sum of the forces equals ma
 
worst.help.ever.
 
elcaptain said:
worst.help.ever.

And, appropriately so. Other than writing "F=ma" the OP has not demonstrated any real effort, as is required to receive help here.
 
I have the same question, and the relevant equations for the section are Energy equations and possibly momentum equations.

K=.5mv^2=Fd

m1v1=m2v2

however, like the OP, as the stone is at rest and has zero net acceleration/ force I do not know which equation to even use. If anyone caould point us in the right direction, I would be quite appreciative as well
 
oh and F frictional=mu*Normal Force
 
Start with part (a), and list all the forces that are acting on the stone. As you noted, the net force on the stone must be zero.
 
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Its deceptively simple!
 

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