Solving the Unsolved: Egyptian Fractions

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The discussion centers on the unsolved problem of whether the equation 4/n can always be expressed as the sum of three Egyptian fractions for integers n greater than 1. It references the Erdős–Straus conjecture, which posits that 4/N can indeed be represented in this way, although there are restrictions on N. Examples are provided to illustrate valid representations, such as 4/3 and 4/5, while noting that 2 cannot be expressed as a sum of three distinct positive integers. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and the nuances involved in finding suitable integer solutions. The topic remains an intriguing area of mathematical exploration.
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The following is a well-known unsolved problem :

If n is an integer larger than 1, must there be integers x, y, and z, such that 4/n=1/x+1/y+1/z?
A number of the form 1/x where x is an integer is called an Egyptian fraction.
Thus, we want to know if 4/n is always the sum of three Egyptian fractions, for n>1.
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So, if 4/n=1/x + 1/y + 1/z, then there exists a third degree polynomial x^3 + ax^2 + bx + c where 4/n=b/c for integers b and c. This is because 1/x + 1/y + 1/z=(z(x+y) +xy)/xyz. And the polynomial (a+x)(a+y)(a+z)=a^3 + (x+y+z)a^2 + (z(x+y)+xy)a +xyz, which proves the statement when b=z(x+y) +xy and c=xyz.

Your thoughts?
 
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What about 1/2 +1/5 +1/7 = 59/70, how does that work out?

You are confused, as I read you, about The Erdős–Straus conjecture:
The form 4/N can always be expanded into three Egyptian fractions.

However, there has got to be restrictions on N, which Wikipedia puts at N \geq 2 and others just ignore. However, 2 will not work: 2 = 1/x + 1/y +1/z, if we are speaking of positive all different intergers for x,y,z. Thus the first acceptable case is 4/3 = 1+1/4+1/12, and then 4/4 = 1/+1/3+1/6; and 4/5 = 1/2+1/5+1/10; 4/6 =2/3=1/3+1/4+1/12; 4/7 =1/2+1/15 + 1/210. Maybe Erdos, etc, were assuming 4/N was less than 1 anyway.
 
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