Solving Vector Problems in Physics

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The discussion revolves around solving vector problems in physics, specifically focusing on equations involving vector addition and subtraction. The original poster expresses difficulty in understanding how to isolate vectors A and B from given equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss methods for isolating vectors A and B from equations by adding or subtracting the equations. Some participants explore how to manipulate the equations to express one vector in terms of the others.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the vector problems. Some participants have shared their reasoning and methods, while others are still seeking clarity on specific steps. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the manipulation of vector equations.

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Participants note that the original poster missed the first day of class, which may contribute to their difficulties. There is also mention of multiple participants encountering similar problems, suggesting a common challenge with the material.

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i just started physics and i missed the first day. I'm trying to do these vector problems but i can't quite understand it and my book isn't helping.

given that A+2B = x1j +y1j and 2A-B = x2i + y2j what is A?

given that A + B =x1i + y1j and A-B = x2i + y2j what is A?

given that A +B =x1i + y1j and A-B = x2i + y2j what is B?
 
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Welcome to PF;
There's a bunch of people with these problems coming in today ... so having attended the class does not seem to have helped ;)

If you look at those equations, they are in pairs with A-B on one side and A+B on the other ... to get the A out, just add them. To get the B out, subtract them.

I'll show you:

Lets say A+B=xi+yj and A-B=wi+zj

then I can put v1= A+B and v2=A-B
then v1+v2 = (A+B)+(A-B) = (xi+yj)+(wi+zj) do you see now?v1+v2 = A+B+A-B = 2A = (x+w)i+(y+z)j

therefore A = (1/2)[(x+w)i+(y+z)j]
 
What we are doing is lining the relations up and adding the columns just like for a sum of two regular numbers.

[tex] \begin{array}{ccccccccc}<br /> & A & + & B & = & x\hat{\imath} & + & y\hat{\jmath}&\\<br /> +(& A & - & B & = & w \hat{\imath}& + & z\hat{\jmath}&)\\ \hline<br /> & 2A & & & = & (x+w) \hat{\imath}& + & (y+z)\hat{\jmath}&<br /> \end{array}[/tex]
 
That makes so much more sense!
Is this the right answer for "given that A + B =x1i + y1j and A-B = x2i + y2j what is A?"
I got A= (x1+x2)/2i +(y1+y2)/2j
 
Also for "A+2B = x1j +y1j and 2A-B = x2i + y2j what is A?" I got to this point and then got confused:

3A+B=(x1+x2)i +(y1+y2)j and now i don't know how to get the A all alone
 
When there is some constant multiplying the vector we want to get rid of, we have to add a multiple of the vectors together like this:

[tex] \begin{array}{rcccccccl}<br /> & A & + & 2B & = & x\hat{\imath} & + & y\hat{\jmath}&\\<br /> +2\times(& 2A & - & B & = & w \hat{\imath}& + & z\hat{\jmath}&)\\ \hline<br /> & 5A & & & = & (x+2w) \hat{\imath}& + & (y+2z)\hat{\jmath}&<br /> \end{array}[/tex]

notice how the +2x(... applies to the entire second row. I'm multiplying the second vector by 2 so that the second column will have a -2B in it.

You won't always be asked to find A, you may be asked to extract the B instead. In that case you have to subtract instead of add:

[tex] \begin{array}{rcccccccl}<br /> 2\times( & A & + & 2B & = & x\hat{\imath} & + & y\hat{\jmath}&)\\<br /> -(& 2A & - & B & = & w \hat{\imath}& + & z\hat{\jmath}&)\\ \hline<br /> & & & 3B & = & (2x-w) \hat{\imath}& + & (2y-z)\hat{\jmath}&<br /> \end{array}[/tex]

... in this case I multiplied the top row by 2 so the first column would be 2A-2A=0.
 

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