Some music pieces same/similar from the same artist

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This discussion centers on the phenomenon of music pieces from the same artist having different titles while sounding remarkably similar. Specific examples include "Spudnik" and "Surf Rider" by Nokie Edwards and The Ventures, where the latter features a saxophone addition. Additionally, "Fatback," "Ace of Spades," and "Vernon's Diamond" by Link Wray are mentioned, clarifying that the "Ace of Spades" by Motörhead is not related. The conversation also touches on the broader artistic tendency of creators, such as Kurt Vonnegut and Jack Chalker, to produce works that share thematic or structural similarities.

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A better forum for this should be in an entirely different one, not PF, but dedicated to music.

Some pieces of music with different titles but from the same artist seem essentially the same music/or song but just different names. I believe I found two examples:

Spudnik, and Surf Rider (Nokie Edwards, and the Ventures?). The original was Spudnik, and later when a saxophone was included, it seemed to be named Surf Rider.

Fatback, and Ace of Spades, and Vernon's Diamond. and-forgot-the-other-name. Link Wray. NOT the one (Ace of Spades) by Motorhead, which is way completely different.

I'll come back to edit this when I find that other name.
 
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PG Wodehouse once wrote a short story about a golf game twice. Same plot, same characters, just superficial change.

An ice hockey goalie who had a tumor that caused him to produce female hormones wrote the same book twice.

I have been told that Jack Chalker wrote the same book many times.

Whenever I see any author with sixty books lined up I figure that they are all the same. That's the only way you can write that fast.
 
symbolipoint said:
A better forum for this should be in an entirely different once, not PF, but dedicated to music.

Some pieces of music with different titles but from the same artist seem essentially the same music/or song but just different names. I believe I found two examples:

Spudnik, and Surf Rider (Nokie Edwards, and the Ventures?). The original was Spudnik, and later when a saxophone was included, it seemed to be named Surf Rider.

Fatback, and Ace of Spades, and Vernon's Diamond. and-forgot-the-other-name. Link Wray. NOT the one (Ace of Spades) by Motorhead, which is way completely different.

I'll come back to edit this when I find that other name.
Lady Ga Ga. Had a big hit with "Poker face." Subsequent hit sounded very similar.
 
It could be argued that Kurt Vonnegut (fellow midwesterner and Cornellian and a personal hero) wrote the same book again and again. While certainly not literally true, I think it may be the norm for many great artists.
 
hutchphd said:
It could be argued that Kurt Vonnegut (fellow midwesterner and Cornellian and a personal hero) wrote the same book again and again. While certainly not literally true, I think it may be the norm for many great artists.
He certainly used the same phrase over and over.
"So it goes" 106 times in Slaughter house 5.
 
Hornbein said:
I have been told that Jack Chalker wrote the same book many times.
I don't recall that (read much Chalker many moons ago), but I'd nominate John Grisham.

Or, Spider Robinson : I swear the last 20 pages of almost every book, I'm thinking "Is this a two-parter?", then he segues into "and then they all got stoned, mind melded and saved the world". Sortof annoying since they're otherwise quite edible with a decent tempo.
 
symbolipoint said:
Fatback, and Ace of Spades, and Vernon's Diamond. and-forgot-the-other-name. Link Wray. NOT the one (Ace of Spades) by Motorhead, which is way completely different.
Add to that "popin' popeye", also seems to be the same as those other three.
 
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I found a bit of further information on this. This link tells a little of how or why different names for the same or nearly same pieces of music: https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/10759
Not clear is what determined these different names other than what seem like whim.
 

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