Some simple heat transfer formula derivations and questions

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the derivation and understanding of the Biot number formula, specifically the characteristic length (Lc) defined as Lc=V/As, where V is the volume of the body and As is the surface area. Participants clarify that Lc applies to both spherical and cylindrical objects, with specific examples provided for calculating characteristic lengths in different contexts, such as using the inside diameter for circular pipes and chord length for airfoils. The term "characteristic" indicates the method of analysis, particularly in determining whether lumped system analysis is applicable based on the Biot number.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of heat transfer principles, specifically the Biot number.
  • Familiarity with geometric concepts of volume (V) and surface area (As).
  • Knowledge of lumped system analysis in thermal dynamics.
  • Basic understanding of Reynolds number calculations for fluid dynamics.
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of the Biot number and its applications in heat transfer analysis.
  • Learn about lumped system analysis and its limitations in thermal modeling.
  • Explore the calculation of characteristic lengths for various geometries in heat transfer.
  • Investigate the relationship between Reynolds number and characteristic length in fluid flow scenarios.
USEFUL FOR

Mechanical engineers, thermal analysts, and students studying heat transfer who seek to deepen their understanding of the Biot number and its practical applications in thermal analysis.

mech-eng
Messages
825
Reaction score
13
Hi. I would like to ask a simple question. Here is the link of the file I study on. Immediately before the formula 4.9 for Biot number. Lc=V/As but I cannot understand it and I think it is not clear enough. How it appears, for what the word "characteristic" stands for, for example a pipe? For what V and As stands for?
Is that characteristic length for only "spherical objects" or it is valid for cylindrical objects?
File: http://kntu.ac.ir/DorsaPax/userfiles/file/Mechanical/OstadFile/Sayyalat/Bazargan/cen58933_ch04.pdf

Thanks.
 
Last edited:
Engineering news on Phys.org
mech-eng said:
Hi. I would like to ask a simple question. Here is the link of the file I study on. Immediately before the formula 4.9 for Biot number. Lc=V/As but I cannot understand it and I think it is not clear enough. How it appears, for what the word "characteristic" stands for, for example a pipe? For what V and As stands for?
Is that characteristic length for only "spherical objects" or it is valid for cylindrical objects?
File: http://kntu.ac.ir/DorsaPax/userfiles/file/Mechanical/OstadFile/Sayyalat/Bazargan/cen58933_ch04.pdf

Thanks.
If you read the text preceding the formula for the Biot number, it becomes apparent that V is the volume of the body and As is the surface area of same. (See Section 4-1). By dividing volume by surface area, you are left with a "length" Lc, dimensionally speaking, which is taken as the characteristic length of this body. If the Biot No. is low, then the heat transfer characteristics can be treated using the lumped system analysis.

As far as what Lc is for a cylindrical object, I leave that calculation to you, since the quantities of interest have been explained.

The word "characteristic" in this context just means how you decide to treat the subsequent analysis, i.e., whether the lumped system is accurate or not.

For example, in calculating the Reynolds No. for internal pipe flow, the characteristic length to use is the inside diameter for circular pipes. If you are calculating the Reynolds No. for flow over an airfoil, you would use the chord length of the airfoil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reynolds_number
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: BvU
Clearly, V is volume and As is surface area. Figure 4-6 indeed shows a sphere yielding D/6, but the expression can be used for a cylinder too: it gives D/4 if you can ignore the ends. In my imagination Lc is something like the average distance to the surface.
For a pipe shape you'd get thickness/2 (*) -- but I have a hard time thinking of a practical application: a reaction in the space between two concentrical pipes or something.

(*)
##\ \pi r_o^2\ - \ \pi r_i^2\ \over 2\pi r_o + 2 \pi r_i## with ##\ r_o = r_i + d = r + d \ ## this becomes ##\ {2\pi r d \over 4 \pi r} = d/2 ## (ignoring terms d2/r and higher)

Your question is good: wiki makes a mess of it and I hope someone can point us to a more extensive treatment. I looked in Carslaw and Jaeger ('standard reference') and didn't even find Biot mentioned.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
1K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
11K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
14K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K