Something to hold a heavy lid open? Lid stay?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a solution to hold open a heavy lid on a large box, specifically one that cannot obstruct the closure of the lid or be attached inside the box. Participants explore various mechanisms and ideas for supporting the lid in an open position, considering both practical and mechanical solutions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a strap that attaches to the top or back of the box and connects to the lid, allowing for adjustment based on the lid's weight.
  • Another participant proposes using pneumatic springs or gas struts, noting that these are commonly available and could provide the necessary support.
  • A suggestion is made to consider counterweights, which could help balance the lid and allow it to open slightly beyond horizontal.
  • One participant mentions the possibility of using chest hardware, although they express uncertainty about its sturdiness for the intended use.
  • Concerns are raised about using tape or straps, as they may require multiple actions to secure the lid, which may not align with the poster's desire for a more automatic solution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on the best approach to support the lid, with no consensus reached on a single solution. Various mechanisms and ideas are discussed, but uncertainty remains regarding their practicality and effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Some suggestions depend on the specific design of the box and lid, including hinge limitations and weight considerations. The effectiveness of proposed solutions may vary based on these factors.

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Perhaps someone here might be able to give me a few ideas. We have a large box, at least 6ft by 3ft by 4ft, about coffin size. I need to be able to hold the heavy lid open above the level of the top of the box.

I have been looking at lid stays BUT the thing that supports the lid cannot be inside the box, or attach underneath the lid. It MUST attach to the outside of the box, and edge of the lid so it doesn't obstruct tight closure of the lid to the box. (its a dark box)

I have no idea what something like this would be called. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

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So the opening is to the side as shown, right? Can you just lay the lid back onto the top of the box? Or does the hinge not go that far?

How about just a strap that attaches to the top/back of the box and you connect that to the lid after you have lifted it to the open angle? If the lid is heavy, use a couple of straps...?

EDIT/ADD -- You could even use a tie-down strap to go between a couple of eye hooks (one on the back top and one on the lid exterior), and that would let you adjust the angle of the lid by adjusting the length of the tie-down...
 
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Pneumatic spring, AKA gas spring, gas strut.
Also Lid Stay.
Google shows many of each.
 
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Counter weights?...

Note the arms are cranked for two reasons. First to keep some pressure on the door when closed and secondly to allow the door to open slightly beyond the horizontal.

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Awesome, many thanks for the ideas guys! The straps and the counterweights are something I hadn't considered and I think will work. Will give them a try, many thanks!

And yes, unfortunately the hinges do not allow the lid to come right the way over.
 
Goolgle "Chest hardware"

One provider is Lee Valley Tools. They have one system that is entire inside the box, but I don't know if it's sturdy enough for your use -- the intent is to keep trunk lids from slamming down on fingers and heads, so they are built for not much more than balance forces. Still may give you an idea.

There is a new trend in kitchen cupboards with lids like you describe. They are spring loaded, but again, designed for a much smaller door.
 
berkeman said:
So the opening is to the side as shown, right? Can you just lay the lid back onto the top of the box? Or does the hinge not go that far?

How about just a strap that attaches to the top/back of the box and you connect that to the lid after you have lifted it to the open angle? If the lid is heavy, use a couple of straps...?

EDIT/ADD -- You could even use a tie-down strap to go between a couple of eye hooks (one on the back top and one on the lid exterior), and that would let you adjust the angle of the lid by adjusting the length of the tie-down...
How about a piece of tape
 
The problem with tape or strap is that it then takes two actions: Open the lid, fasten the securing device. I think the poster wants something more automatic than that.

I question whether any common tape would be sufficient for a coffin sized horizontal hinged door opening upward.
 

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