Spaceport America: Proving the Naysayers Wrong

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Spaceport America is viewed as a legitimate venture for commercial space travel, particularly with Richard Branson's plans for sub-orbital flights. However, skepticism exists regarding the feasibility and safety of manned space travel, with concerns about insurance liabilities and environmental impacts. Discussions highlight the distinction between current orbital flights and future missions to the Moon or Mars, emphasizing that each step poses greater challenges and risks. The potential for mining resources from other planets is debated, with many arguing that current technology makes such endeavors impractical and costly. The conversation also touches on the importance of technological advancements and economic growth in making space exploration viable, while some participants express frustration over perceived pessimism regarding future possibilities in space travel. Overall, the dialogue reflects a mix of optimism for commercial space ventures and caution about the realities of human spaceflight and resource extraction from other celestial bodies.
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Chi Meson said:
Twenty years ago I had a Compuserve account.

It is NOT "scientific thinking" to say "someday science will figure it out." It IS scientific thinking to make conjectures based on all the evidence as we currently understand them. While it is important to understand that there will be breakthroughs ahead, and that there will be something else discovered that we have no idea about now, we can tell what those things will be, and an expectation that we will discover ANYthing that we want is exactly the same as fiction.

We do know, right now, that interplanetary space, even interstellar space, is awash in energy. Lots of radiant energy for one, there's the solar wind, and lots of hydrogen. There are many ideas out there on how we can use that energy.

The hydrogen ramjet idea is over 30 years old, and would be a great source of fuel once a spacecraft is already traveling at high velocity. Solar sails should work fine for acceleration away from the sun, but the craft would need to be very small compared to the sails, and it would be no good for getting back home (you cannot tack against the wind in space).

Science must be skeptical in the face of goals based on unknown speculation. We have to temper our wishes with our reality (as we understand reality to be). Going into orbit around the Earth is OLD news. It has been done for forty years now. Half a century of orbiting the earth. So now a Spaceport "is going to be built" in order to take people into orbit. How much of a step is that?

We are also now thinking and planning (not building yet) a scheme to get one or two people to Mars and back. I am certain that we will get there, and probably within my lifetime. But large groups of people going to Mars? Not so very soon.

I agree, given current technology there a lot of things we can't do. But to turn around and say 'it will never happen' or 'it will never be feasible' is putting a stop on things. If we took that attitude with everything, where would we be? Decades ago, heads of the army said "flying has no place in war", they couldn't see what use aircraft would be to the army and didn't believe money should be spent on it. Now if we hadn't kept developing aircraft and just given up on them because of these views, we wouldn't be where we are today. The wars gave a lot of developments in aircraft technology. Look at radar.
 

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