Sparkling water and carbonic acid

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the health implications of consuming sparkling water, particularly regarding its carbonic acid content and its effects on dental health. Participants explore the chemistry of carbonated water, compare it to soda, and question labeling practices.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern that sparkling water contains carbonic acid, which they believe could be harmful to teeth, and criticize the lack of transparency in labeling.
  • Others argue that the acidity of sparkling water is significantly lower than that of sodas, citing studies that suggest its tooth-eroding ability is minimal compared to sugary drinks.
  • A participant mentions that the reaction forming carbonic acid is temperature-dependent, suggesting that drinking cold sparkling water may mitigate any potential harm.
  • There is a discussion about the corrosiveness of sodas due to added acids, with some participants noting that these beverages are estimated to be much more harmful to dental health than carbonated water.
  • One participant questions whether the term "carbonated water" is misleading, suggesting that it may be more palatable for consumers compared to "dilute carbonic acid."

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the health implications of sparkling water versus soda. While some believe sparkling water poses minimal risk, others remain concerned about its acidity and potential effects on dental health.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various studies and pH levels, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the impact of temperature on acidity and the broader implications of carbonic acid consumption.

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I drink 2-3 sparkling waters a day (La Croix). I look at the nutrition back and it contains nothing but carbonated water and natural flavors. So I think it's completely harmless. Now I am learning this "carbonated water" may be more than I think. Apparently it contains carbonic acid which can be harmful to teeth. I think it's seriously misleading that they don't have to put carbonic acid on the label.

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Greg Bernhardt said:
I drink 2-3 sparkling waters a day (La Croix). I look at the nutrition back and it contains nothing but carbonated water and natural flavors. So I think it's completely harmless. Now I am learning this "carbonated water" may be more than I think. Apparently it contains carbonic acid which can be harmful to teeth. I think it's seriously misleading that they don't have to put carbonic acid on the label.

The Sad Truth About Seltzer
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...d-truth-about-seltzer/433947/?utm_source=SFFB
It should be fine, drinking it cold in away, CO2 stays as is and does not mingle with water to form Carbonic Acid. You could differentiate the taste of none chilled soda with cold ones. When it taste sour(when its hot-at ambient temp.), it may affect your teeth and worsen stomach acidity.

In Chemistry, rate of reaction depends on temperature. For CO2+H2O↔H2CO3, is endothermic reaction. The reverse process would be exothermic.
 
Here is a paper examining this:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...ionid=2D238FA5BFF6FC5DD642A245312BF5FF.f03t02
They use flavored sparkling water with a ph of 3.0. This is closer to what soda would be which contains other acids.

This study:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11556958
shows that normal unflavored seltzer water has about 1% of the tooth eroding ability of soda.

This is less acidic than most of the foods that we eat on an everyday basis. It would be impossible to make plain carbonic acid at a ph of 3.0 in human drinkable conditions so I wouldn't worry about causing an acid stomach either.

Also the solubility of CO2 in water is greater at lower temperatures so any increased sour taste at warmer temperatures is likely due to the fact that materials at a warmer temperature have more flavor than at a colder temperature.

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Soda's Coke etc. do not carry warning labels but are now considered significant health risks because of the sugar content. For whatever reason perhaps the inclusion of phosphoric or citric acids that are added, some Soda are estimated to be 100 times more corrosive to teeth than carbonated water.

You can find a list of beverages and their pH http://www.rocktondental.com/docs/Dental_PH_drink_tab.pdf.
 
gleem said:
Soda's Coke etc. do not carry warning labels but are now considered significant health risks because of the sugar content. For whatever reason perhaps the inclusion of phosphoric or citric acids that are added, some Soda are estimated to be 100 times more corrosive to teeth than carbonated water.

You can find a list of beverages and their pH http://www.rocktondental.com/docs/Dental_PH_drink_tab.pdf.

Thanks but, this topic is about sparkling water
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
I drink 2-3 sparkling waters a day (La Croix). I look at the nutrition back and it contains nothing but carbonated water and natural flavors. So I think it's completely harmless. Now I am learning this "carbonated water" may be more than I think. Apparently it contains carbonic acid which can be harmful to teeth. I think it's seriously misleading that they don't have to put carbonic acid on the label.
H2O + CO2 = carbonated water = dilute carbonic acid

Are you saying it's misleading to use the less alarming name on the product label? Maybe, though it's probably better understood by most people.

And it certainly avoids any potential confusion with stinky carbolic acid!
 

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