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Special relativity theory train and mosquito

  1. May 21, 2014 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Train is moving along the x axis with speed v relative to platform, inside the train mosquito is flying with 3D speed v0.
    1) Write mosquito s 4-speed components with respect to train coordinate system.
    2) Using 4-vector component transformation write mosquito's 4-speed components with respect to platform,by transforming 4-vector speed components with respect to train.

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    3. The attempt at a solution
    1) This is quite easy,the speed components with respect to train coordinate system :
    (icγ,v0xγ,v0yγ,v0zγ),where γ=1/[itex]\sqrt{1-v_0^2/c^2}[/itex]
    2) Here I Think i could use Lorenc transformation,but i have to use 4-vector component transformation which i think cant be used in Lorenc transform.
    Some help here,please ?
     
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  3. May 21, 2014 #2

    TSny

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    Hello.

    I'm not sure I'm following you here. The Lorentz transformation can be used for transforming the components of any 4-vector from one inertial frame to another.
     
  4. May 21, 2014 #3
    In that case im just not sure how to use transformation formulas.
    Can i take the corresponding component and "plug it in" in the Lorentz formula?
     
  5. May 21, 2014 #4

    TSny

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    Can you show explicitly what you are thinking?
     
  6. May 21, 2014 #5
    My first thought was just to plug in velocity (v0y and v0z..) in to Lorentz transform ,now i released that Lorentz transform is for coordinates and time only.

    So maybe i can use vx=v'x+v/(1+v*v'x/c2) and plug velocity in there?
     
  7. May 21, 2014 #6
    No, Lorentz transform is not for coordinates and time only. It applies for any 4-vector. Neat huh?
     
  8. May 21, 2014 #7

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    The Lorentz transformation is for any 4-vector. Here's a link that might help: http://physicspages.com/2011/04/18/four-vectors-basics/

    See about a third of the way down where the transformation is given for a general 4-vector (A0, A1, A2, A3).

    I think very few people any more use imaginary values for the zeroth component of a 4-vector. The link uses the more standard notation. You might need to make some adjustments in notation.

    I don't think this is what the problem wants you to do.
     
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