Specialization-generalization(mathematical logic)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of specialization and generalization in mathematical logic, particularly in relation to scientific theories. Participants explore whether scientific theories should adhere to the logical framework of specialization as defined, and whether there are instances where this might not hold true.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant cites the Wikipedia definition of specialization and argues that it implies a contradiction if concept A were to be a special case of concept B simultaneously.
  • Some participants express agreement with the initial claim regarding the necessity of consistency in scientific theories.
  • Another participant suggests that established theories might not fulfill the consistency check implied by the specialization definition, indicating potential surprises in scientific understanding.
  • There is a mention of degenerate cases complicating the issue of consistency, which could indicate underlying inconsistencies in the conceptual framework.

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While some participants agree on the necessity of consistency in scientific theories, the discussion remains unresolved regarding whether all established theories adhere to this requirement, and the implications of degenerate cases are not fully clarified.

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Specialization as defined in Wikipedia:
"Concept B is a specialisation of concept A if and only if:

  • every instance of concept B is also an instance of concept A; and
  • there are instances of concept A which are not instances of concept B"
We then call B as special case of A, it seems evident from the definition that in no case, given this definition, can A be simultaneously a special case of B, because it would be in contradiction and that conceptual system would be inconsistent.

Should scientific theories(mathematically founded) follow this logic or can you think of any example that wouldn't necessarily? In other words is this a requirement for consistent scientific theories?
 
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yes :smile:
 
BvU said:
yes :smile:
Thanks, I supposed so but I wanted to confirm it, people would be surprised by certain established theories that don't fulfill this consistency check.
 
RockyMarciano said:
Thanks, I supposed so but I wanted to confirm it, people would be surprised by certain established theories that don't fulfill this consistency check.
Perhaps the issue is not so clear when the special cases happen to be also degenerate cases, but then I can see that in itself as a symptom of possible inconsistency.
 

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