Spectra of Stars: Reliable Data & Quantitative Analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding reliable quantitative data of the spectra of different stars for analysis. Participants seek resources and tools for accessing and processing this data, sharing their experiences and recommendations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests reliable data sources for star spectra, emphasizing the need for quantitative data to analyze independently.
  • Another participant suggests using Google to find spectra data, implying that there are many resources available.
  • Some participants report difficulties in accessing usable data, mentioning issues with synthesized data and file formats that are hard to open.
  • The Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) is recommended as a source for archived spectroscopic data, with detailed instructions on how to access and use the site.
  • Participants discuss the need for specific software to open FITS files, with suggestions for free options provided.
  • One participant shares an interactive viewer from SDSS that helps locate objects with spectra, along with a tool for converting object names to coordinates.
  • A participant highlights a specific quasar as an example of interesting data, discussing its redshift and the implications for observing light from billions of years ago.
  • Another participant seeks advice on converting binary data from FITS files, expressing frustration with the process.
  • Python and the pyfits module are recommended as tools for interrogating and plotting FITS files, with example code provided for those interested in learning.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the usefulness of the SDSS as a resource for star spectra data, but there are varying experiences regarding the accessibility and usability of the data. Some participants express frustration with technical issues, while others provide solutions and suggestions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention difficulties with specific file formats and the need for software to process data, indicating limitations in their current approaches. There are also references to varying levels of familiarity with programming tools, which may affect the ability to analyze the data effectively.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in astrophysics, data analysis, and programming, particularly those looking to work with astronomical spectra data and seeking resources for independent research.

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I'm looking for reliable data of the spectra of different stars, anyone know any good resouces? Quantitative data would be best because I want to analyze it myself (not just find out something that was already on the site). Thanks in advance :)
 
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NihalRi said:
I'm looking for reliable data of the spectra of different stars, anyone know any good resouces? Quantitative data would be best because I want to analyze it myself (not just find out something that was already on the site). Thanks in advance :)

did you actually try searching for data yourself ?

I typed spectra data for stars into google and got many good hits
 
i did, and i got synthesized data and files i could not open :?
 
The Sloan Digital Sky Survey SDSS has archived spectroscopic data on millions of stars and galaxies. You can plot the spectra, or download FITS files with the spectra for your own analysis. Here's how to use it:

Go to the site: http://mirror.sdss3.org . (don't use Internet Explorer, which has some issues with looking at this site). This site gives you access to a set of real astronomical data released in January 2011 by a team of astronomers. In the menu, go to "Spectra" and under that "Bulk Search." On the right side, enter the RA and Dec that you are interested in. One good one to start with is at coordinates 16.437201, -10.7071. Use a Tolerance of 2.0 arc seconds and click "Submit". Scroll down and under "Plot Spectrum" click "Plot". It will plot the spectrum, which is that of an A0 star with prominent H absorption lines.

There are a wealth of things you can do with this site.
 
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phyzguy said:
The Sloan Digital Sky Survey SDSS has archived spectroscopic data on millions of stars and galaxies. You can plot the spectra, or download FITS files with the spectra for your own analysis. Here's how to use it:

Go to the site: http://mirror.sdss3.org . (don't use Internet Explorer, which has some issues with looking at this site). This site gives you access to a set of real astronomical data released in January 2011 by a team of astronomers. In the menu, go to "Spectra" and under that "Bulk Search." On the right side, enter the RA and Dec that you are interested in. One good one to start with is at coordinates 16.437201, -10.7071. Use a Tolerance of 2.0 arc seconds and click "Submit". Scroll down and under "Plot Spectrum" click "Plot". It will plot the spectrum, which is that of an A0 star with prominent H absorption lines.

There are a wealth of things you can do with this site.
Thank you that was really helpful, is there anywhere specific where you get the RA's and DEC's from?
 
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Maybe an easier way to get started with the SDSS data is to go to this site:
http://skyserver.sdss.org/dr12/en/tools/chart/navi.aspx
This is an interactive viewer that allows you to scroll around and click on objects. If you click the box on the left that says "Objects with spectra", it will put a red box around the objects where spectra have been measured. If you click on one of those it will give you the information and show the spectrum.

On your question of how to find the coordinates for an object, there are many online tools. This site:
https://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/Tools/convcoord/convcoord.pl
allows you to enter the name of an object (for example "polaris"), and it will give you the coordinates.
 
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Here's an interesting object that I happened upon while scrolling around and writing the last post. Go to the object at:
ra 133.03722
dec 11.43490
It is a quasar at a red shift of 2.26. The Lyman Alpha line, which at zero redshift is in the far ultraviolet at 1215 Angstroms, has been redshifted all the way into the visible at about 4000 Angstroms. We are seeing the light that left this object approximately 10 billion years ago. Cool!
 
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Hi again, I've downloaded the fitz files from SDSS as you've recommended, and software that can open them, but all the data is in binary and I was just wondering is there an easy way of converting them? Or perhaps software that does that as well?
 
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I just use Python and the pyfits module to interrogate and plot fits files. Below is some simple code to do this, and attached is the output of that code. If you want to learn how to extract and process data, Python is a great tool, and I encourage you to learn how to use it. There are many online tutorials.

Code:
import pyfits as pf
data = pf.getdata("~/Downloads/apStar-r5-2M08505976+1139222.fits")
plot(data[0])
show()
 

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phyzguy said:
I just use Python and the pyfits module to interrogate and plot fits files. Below is some simple code to do this, and attached is the output of that code. If you want to learn how to extract and process data, Python is a great tool, and I encourage you to learn how to use it. There are many online tutorials.

Code:
import pyfits as pf
data = pf.getdata("~/Downloads/apStar-r5-2M08505976+1139222.fits")
plot(data[0])
show()

Thanks this was really helpful. I'm actually working on learning python but I'm still very new. At this frustrating part where I know what can be done but not how lol. :)
 

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