Spectral theorem for discontinuous operators

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The discussion revolves around the application of the spectral theorem to a differential operator involving a discontinuous rectangular function. Participants explore the implications of this discontinuity on the extraction of a complete set of states and the convergence of eigenspectra.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses doubt about the applicability of the spectral theorem due to the discontinuity in the rectangular function, suggesting that while approximation might be possible, convergence of eigenspectra is not guaranteed.
  • Another participant challenges the characterization of the rectangular function as not being a real function, proposing a piecewise approach to analyze the operator.
  • There is a discussion about the nature of the eigenfunctions outside and inside the rectangular function, with one participant noting that they are not orthogonal but Dirac orthogonal.
  • A later reply questions the completeness of the piecewise-defined eigenfunctions, raising concerns about the normalization condition required for them to form a complete set.
  • Some participants discuss the value at the "break point" of the rectangular function, noting it is the average of the two constant values, which adds to the complexity of the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the rectangular function and its implications for the spectral theorem. There is no consensus on whether the spectral theorem is applicable in this case, and the discussion remains unresolved.

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Limitations include the dependence on the definitions of functions and the specific properties of the rectangular function, as well as unresolved questions about the completeness and orthogonality of the proposed eigenfunctions.

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Hi all,

I'm trying to extract a complete set of states, by applying the spectral theorem to the following differential operator:

L = -\frac{d^2}{dx^2} + \mathrm{rect}(x)

where rect(x) is the (discontinuous) rectangular function:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectangular_function

I have a feeling that this may not be possible because of the discontinuity in rect(x).

On the one hand, tt should be possible to approximate rect(x) by a sequence of functions for which the spectral theorem applies. But on the other hand, I don't think eigenspectra of this sequence is guaranteed to converge to that of L.

Can anyone more familiar with functional analysis confirm my suspicion?
 
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why are you using the "rectangular function" which isn't a real function anyway? just break up the domain of the operator in two 3 parts - where rect(x) is zero, where rect(x) = k, and finally where rect(x) is zero again.

outside the square the two eigenfunctions will be exp(ikx) and exp(-ikx) and inside they will be exp(mx) and exp(-mx). they're not orthogonal though, they're dirac orthogonal.
 
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In what sense is a "rectangular function" not a function? What definition of function are you using? By the most common definition of "function", that certainly is a function.
 
HallsofIvy said:
In what sense is a "rectangular function" not a function? What definition of function are you using? By the most common definition of "function", that certainly is a function.

yea i guess you're right, i don't know what i was thinking saying that. something along the lines that the lines up sides made the function non-single valued.
 
I thought that for a moment but in the picture given the value at the "break point" is specifically the average of the two constant values.
 
ice109 said:
why are you using the "rectangular function" which isn't a real function anyway? just break up the domain of the operator in two 3 parts - where rect(x) is zero, where rect(x) = k, and finally where rect(x) is zero again.

outside the square the two eigenfunctions will be exp(ikx) and exp(-ikx) and inside they will be exp(mx) and exp(-mx). they're not orthogonal though, they're dirac orthogonal.

The eigenfunctions are defined piecewise consisting of \exp(\pm ikx) and \exp(\pm \kappa x), with the functions and their first derivatives matched at \pm 1/2.

Are you absolutely sure that these piecewise-defined eigenfunctions form a complete set (ie Dirac orthonormal)? In order for this to be the case we must have (with appropriate normalisation)

\left(\int_{-\infty}^{-1/2} + \int_{-1/2}^{1/2} +\int_{1/2}^{\infty}\right)\psi_k \psi_l dx= \delta (k - l).

It is not immediately obvious to me that this will work due to the way \psi_k is defined and those funny integration limits. In fact I'm starting to think that the spectral theorem is not applicable here.
 

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