Speed and Direction after Collision

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The problem involves a collision between two balls of clay, one traveling east and the other traveling at an angle of 30 degrees south of west. Participants are tasked with determining the speed and direction of the resulting mass after the collision, using conservation of momentum principles.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of momentum in both x and y components to find the final velocity and direction of the combined mass. Some participants question the interpretation of the angle "30 degrees south of west" and clarify the setup for vector components. Others suggest using vector notation to express the momentum equations systematically.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations and methods to approach the calculations. Some have provided partial results, while others are verifying their understanding of the angle and the application of momentum equations.

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There is some confusion regarding the angle measurement and its implications for the calculations. The problem is constrained by the need to adhere to conservation laws and the specific conditions of the collision.

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A 20 g ball of clay traveling east at 2.0 m/s collides with a 30 g ball of clay traveling 300 south of west at 1.0 m/s . What are the speed and direction of the resulting 50g blob of clay?



Relevant equations
Pi = Pf



The attempt at a solution
(Px)i = mF(-Vfcostheta) + mP (Vp)
= (0.03 kg)(-1.0)(cos30) + (0.02kg)(2.0)
= 0.014019

(Py)i = mf(Vfy)i + mP(Vpy)i = mf(-vfsintheta) + 0
= (0.3)(1.0)(sin30) = 0.15 kg.m/s

(Px)f = (Px)i
(Vx)f = (Px)i / (mF + mP) = 0.014019 / (0.03 +0.02)
= 0.28038 m/s
(Py)f = (Py)i
(Vy)f = (Py)i / (mF + mP) = 0.15 / (0.02 +0.03) = 3.0 m/s

Direction = tan-1 [(Vy)f / (Vx)f] = tan-1 [ 3 / 0.28038] = 84.66 Degrees

V = SquareRoot[ (Vx)f^2 + (Vy)f^2) = Squareroot[ 3^2 + 0.28038^2] = 3.013 m/s



IS this Right??
 
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jeeves_17 said:
A 20 g ball of clay traveling east at 2.0 m/s collides with a 30 g ball of clay traveling 300 south of west at 1.0 m/s . What are the speed and direction of the resulting 50g blob of clay?

What does that mean "300 south of west"? 300 degrees?

Start with simple conservation of momentum:

m_1 v_1 + m_2 v_2 = (m_1 + m_2)v

Now in vector notation:

m_1 \vec v_1 + m_2 \vec v_2 = (m_1 + m_2) \vec v

Given the specifics of the problem, we can conclude that the motion is limited to two dimensions: east-west and north-south. We'll let the east-west be the x component and the north-south be the y component.

So:

\vec v_1 =v_1\cos{\theta_1}\hat x+v_1\sin{\theta_1}\hat y
\vec v_2 =v_2\cos{\theta_2}\hat x+v_2\sin{\theta_2}\hat y
\vec v =v\cos{\theta_3}\hat x+v\sin{\theta_3}\hat y

Now we can write the whole mess out...

m_1 (v_1\cos{\theta_1}\hat x+v_1\sin{\theta_1}\hat y) + m_2 (v_2\cos{\theta_2}\hat x+v_2\sin{\theta_2}\hat y) = (m_1 + m_2) (v\cos{\theta_3}\hat x+v\sin{\theta_3}\hat y)

Now we can group the individual vector components:

m_1 v_1\cos(\theta_1)\hat x + m_2 v_2\cos(\theta_2)\hat x = (m_1 + m_2) v\cos(\theta_3)\hat x
m_1 v_1\sin(\theta_1)\hat y + m_2 v_2\sin(\theta_2)\hat y = (m_1 + m_2) v\sin(\theta_3)\hat y

Now you have two equations and two unknowns.

Reduce:

\frac{m_1 v_1\cos(\theta_1) + m_2 v_2\cos(\theta_2)}{m_1 + m_2} = v\cos(\theta_3)

\frac{m_1 v_1\sin(\theta_1) + m_2 v_2\sin(\theta_2)}{m_1 + m_2} = v\sin(\theta_3)

Now it's easy to find the angle. Just divide the equations, resulting in this:

\frac{m_1 v_1\sin(\theta_1) + m_2 v_2\sin(\theta_2)}{m_1 v_1\cos(\theta_1) + m_2 v_2\cos(\theta_2)}=\tan{\theta_3}

To find v, square both equations and add them together...

v^2\cos^2{\theta_3}+v^2\sin^2{\theta_3}=...

Use the trig identity:

\cos^2{\theta}+\sin^2{\theta}=1

v^2(\cos^2{\theta_3}+\sin^2{\theta_3})=...

v^2=...
 
sorry it's 30 degrees
 
i got an angle of 52 degrees and a velocity of 0.94 .. is that right:S
 

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