Spherical harmonics, angular momentum, quantum

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The discussion revolves around constructing 3x3 matrices for the angular momentum operators Lz, Lx, and Ly in the context of spherical harmonics Y(l,m) for l=1 and m values of 1, 0, and -1. The original poster attempts to determine the action of Lz on the spherical harmonics and is seeking guidance on how to proceed with the matrix representations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the choice of basis for the spherical harmonics and whether alternative representations can be used. There are questions about how the basis vectors relate to the matrix components and the implications of using different bases.

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Some participants have provided guidance on confirming the matrix representation of Lz and suggested methods for deriving the matrices for Lx and Ly. The conversation reflects an exploration of different bases and their utility in the context of angular momentum operators.

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There is a mention of the ladder operators L_± and their relationship to the chosen basis, indicating that the discussion is framed within the constraints of quantum mechanics and the properties of angular momentum.

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I have to construct 3, 3X3 matrices for Lz, Lx, Ly for the spherical harmonics Y(l,m) given l=1 and m = 1,0,-1

So I can determine the relevant harmonics for these values of l and m.

I act with Lz on Y to get

L Y(1,0) = 0

L Y(1,1) = hbar Y(1,1)

L Y(1,-1) = -hbar Y(1,-1)

I'm not sure what to do with this however
 
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If you choose the basis

[tex]Y(1,1) = \begin{pmatrix} 1 \\ 0 \\ 0\end{pmatrix}, ~ Y(1,0) = \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 1 \\ 0\end{pmatrix},~ Y(1,-1) = \begin{pmatrix} 0 \\ 0 \\ 1\end{pmatrix},[/tex]

then you should be able to confirm that you've shown that

[tex]L_z = \begin{pmatrix} \hbar & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 & 0 \\ 0& 0 & -\hbar \end{pmatrix}.[/tex]

You need to work out the action of [tex]L_x[/tex] and [tex]L_y[/tex] and rewrite them in terms of the basis vectors above. This will give you the matrix representations of the other generators.
 
so can I choose whatever basis I want? Y(1,1) could be (0,1,0)?

Do these vectors make up the vertical components of the matrix?
 
Chronos000 said:
so can I choose whatever basis I want? Y(1,1) could be (0,1,0)?

You could choose another basis. The one I suggested is particularly nice if you ever work with the ladder operators

[tex]L_\pm = L_x \pm i L_y[/tex]

Do these vectors make up the vertical components of the matrix?

The way to see the matrix is to write, say

[tex]L_z Y(1,1) = m_{11} Y(1,1) + m_{12} Y(1,0) + m_{13} Y(1,-1)[/tex]

[tex]L_z Y(1,0) = m_{21} Y(1,1) + m_{22} Y(1,0) + m_{23} Y(1,-1)[/tex]

[tex]L_z Y(1,-1) = m_{31} Y(1,1) + m_{32} Y(1,0) + m_{33} Y(1,-1)[/tex]

Then the coefficients [tex]m_{ij}[/tex] are the entries of the corresponding matrix. You should be able to do this for the other components.
 

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