Spok travels to the year 1930 on Earth

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The discussion revolves around the concept of harmonic memory inspired by a Star Trek episode where Spock travels to the 1930s. Participants explore the theoretical implications of such a memory system, comparing it to existing technologies and discussing its potential applications.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a theoretical harmonic memory based on Fourier series, where oscillators convert bits into oscillatory signals of unique frequencies.
  • Another participant suggests that the idea of a memory based on changing frequencies, as opposed to voltage levels, could be beneficial, referencing the complexity of satellite signals.
  • A participant expresses a lack of findings related to harmonic memory despite searching for similar technologies and theoretical developments.
  • Discussion includes a mention of time travel methods depicted in the Star Trek episode, with a participant recalling the mechanics of time travel in relation to orbital dynamics.
  • One participant challenges the accuracy of the time travel mechanics discussed, asserting that the episode's portrayal does not align with current understanding of time according to General Relativity.

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Participants express differing views on the time travel mechanics in the Star Trek episode, with some asserting inaccuracies while others maintain their interpretations. The discussion on harmonic memory remains exploratory without a consensus on its feasibility or existence.

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Participants reference various theoretical concepts and technologies without resolving the limitations or assumptions inherent in their discussions, particularly regarding the practicality of harmonic memory and the mechanics of time travel.

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I have entered this section of the forum and found references to Star Trek. This series once left me wondering. It was a chapter from the first era. Spok travels to the 1930s on Earth and his communicator breaks down. Asking, he manages to reach the laboratory of a scientist of 1930, who receives him very well and tries to help him as much as possible. The last step to communicate with the Enterprise is to improvise a memory that replaces the original memory of the communicator. In the midst of the noise at home, I thought I heard harmonic memory. I was stunned by surprise. This is advanced! , I thought. Of course, it is the only inexhaustible memory! What I thought I heard led to the idea of a memory based on the Fourier series. Two twin electronic oscillators connected to a mediating stage, designed to handle them and communicate with the system that needs a memory. The mediating stage converts each bit into an oscillatory signal of a certain frequency. No other bit can be converted to the same frequency.

We begin with empty harmonic memory. The first bit arrives, the mediating stage converts it into an oscillation and stores the waveform in oscillator A. The second bit arrives. The mediating stage converts it into an oscillation of another frequency, which is added with the oscillation of the first bit stored in A. The sum gives a waveform that is stored in oscillator B and is available A for the arrival of the third bit. The third bit is converted, added with the waveform in B and the sum is saved in A. The resulting waveform is increasingly complex, because it has more harmonic components. But if oscillators A and B are superlatively good, faithful and perfectly preserve the resulting waveform that is stored in each, there is no theoretical limit to the number of harmonic components that can be added. The theoretical limit is the square wave, which has infinite harmonics. So, in theory, a harmonic memory is capable of saving infinite bits. If A and B are perfect devices, that memory is inexhaustible. In a real harmonic memory A and B could not be perfect. But after many improvements, it can surpass all the other types of memories that have been invented until today.

Excited with the idea, I asked myself what possibility does human memory have of being harmonic and, perhaps, that A and B are not oscillators made of brain matter. That is, the wave functions of A and B are stored in fields located around the head and not inside.

Years later I saw the same chapter for the second time, in a quieter environment. What Spok says is not harmonic memory. It is mnemonic memory, which does not inspire the same thing and which is a redundant phrase, because in Greek mnemos means memoryonic. It's like saying memory memoryonic. A dullness.

This is the anecdote of a chapter of Star Trek looked one day that there was noise at home.
 
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In that story, the City on the Edge Of Forever, Spock attempts to create a mnemonic memory circuit



You heard something else in it namely harmonic not mnemonic and it has inspired you with curiosity and could become a great invention. We know that signals transmitted between neurons is of changing frequency not one of changing voltage levels as is done in computers today. So perhaps a memory based on some sort of Fourier series would be useful.

As far as I know though I’ve not heard of such a memory device. In communications though, satellite signals are quite complex and can carry a lot of meta info in addition to a video signal.
 
Also, at that moment, I have taken the job of looking for technology or theoretical developments similar to what that auditory error inspired me. I have searched not only for harmonic memory. I also used propositional logic in the search engine, for example Fourier.memory , complex.waveform.memory , wavegroup.memory , bits.storage.waveform and other possibilities as well. Nothing similar to the harmonic memory I have found.

Tank You for the chapter ! I love it !
 
In that episode, if I remember correctly, the method to get to the past is to orbit an astral body, in the opposite direction to its own rotation. Superman does the same around the Earth to travel to the past. If I remember something I read, aerial surveillance intercepts all attempts at equatorial flights and prevents them from being done. They also suppress attempts to fly over the poles, but the Star Trek episode shows equatorial orbit. Amelia Mary Earhart, famous plane pilot, disappearance just like her plane near Guinea, on an equatorial flight. I have never understood why the equatorial flight is currently repressed, because the machines have improved superlatively.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amelia_Earhart
 
i think we are getting off topic here. The episode didn’t have a time travel orbital recovery. The Guardian simply restored the timeline. There was another episode where the starship catapulted around the sun to return to th present but these ar more fantasy than based on our present understanding of time from General Relativity.

Since we discussed the harmonic memory we can now close this thread.
 
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