Square Numbers Easily: A Simple Technique

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The discussion revolves around a proposed technique for squaring numbers, particularly focusing on numbers near multiples of 5. Participants explore the method's steps, its validity, and comparisons to other squaring techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a method for squaring numbers by manipulating digits and using multiples of 5, providing examples with calculations.
  • Another participant acknowledges the first step of the method as correct and suggests it aligns with a known algebraic formula, indicating they will verify the rest of the approach.
  • A different participant questions whether the method should first apply to the nearest multiple of 5, suggesting it resembles a binomial expansion.
  • Another participant emphasizes that squaring multiples of 5 is straightforward and shares their own method for squaring such numbers, asserting that formal proofs are unnecessary for arithmetic observations.
  • One participant mentions simpler methods for squaring numbers, comparing them to the proposed technique while still recognizing its connection to binomial concepts.
  • A later reply expresses regret for a previous comment, indicating a desire to maintain a positive tone in the discussion.
  • The original poster expresses excitement about their discovery, acknowledging the possibility that it may already be known.

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Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the proposed method, with some validating parts of it while others suggest alternative approaches or question its necessity. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views on the effectiveness and simplicity of various squaring techniques.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference algebraic principles and binomial expansions, indicating a potential overlap with formal mathematical concepts, but the discussion primarily focuses on arithmetic observations and techniques.

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Ok, I don't know if this method is already known or not, but I found this all by myself after some observations... so here it is...

Suppose we want to square a number, say 67.

What i have found is this:

1. First get 652 which is [6*7][5*5] = 4225
2. Forget the digit in the unit's place, ie, 5.
3. Take the remaining digits. In this case it's 422
4. This is my observation. For every 5, add 1 as many times as the original number is greater than the nearest 5 multiple. Since 65 is 5*13, we add 13 (67-65)=2 times.ie, we add 13*2=26 to the 'remaining number'. That is we do 422+26=448
5. Put the last digit of the square of the digit in the unit's place of the original number, after the sum obtained ie, put the last digit of 7*7 ie, 9, after 448, getting 4489 as the required square!

Another example:

Finding 822...

1. 802=6400
2. 80=5*16
3. 640+16*(82-80)=640+32=672
4. required square is 6724

The nearest multiple of 5 has to be taken. For 33, we must take 35 and then subtract instead of adding.

1. 352=1225
2. 35=5*7
3. 122 + 7*(33-35) = 122 - 14 = 108
4. required square is 1089

So what do you people think of this?

This is equally applicable for 3 digit numbers, though then the initial squaring of 5 multiples become another thing.
But we can still apply this.

2022 is:

1. 2002=40000
2. 200=5*40
3. 4000+40*2=4000+80=4080
4. required square is 40804.
 
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Well, I'll look it over, but your first step looks right anyway:

Writing a number X as y*10+5, with "y" some number, we have:
X^2=(y*10+5)^2=y^2*100+2*y*10*5+25=y^2*100+y*100+25=(y+1)*y*100+25, which general formula is in agreement with your observations.
I'll give the rest of your recipe a check, I don't think I've seen this particular algorithm before.
 
But don't you first have to apply your method to the closest multiple of 5 (unless all digits are zero except the first)?

I think what you're doing is a variant of the binomial:

672=(65+2)2=4225+2(65)(2)+22=

4225+260+9

2022=(200+2)2=2002+2(2)(200)+22=

40000+800+4822=(80+2)2+2(2)(80)+22=

6400+320+4
 
Bacle2 said:
But don't you first have to apply your method to the closest multiple of 5 (unless all digits are zero except the first)?

squaring a 5's multiple is the simplest thing! if don't know it, know it now... to get 45^2 place these two products side by side... 4*(4+1) and (5^5) ie 4*5 and 5*5 ie 2025...
similarly 105^2 = (10*11)(5*5)=11025



arildno, of course this has an algebraic counter part, but we really don't need to know that do we... this stuff is arithmetic and as long as observations hold true, there's no need to prove it using formal maths... take Ramanujan's number for instance, 1729... did he do algebra while lying in death bed to say that its the smallest number to be expressed as sum of two different cubes? most likely not... he merely 'observed' it to be true...
 
deep838 said:
squaring a 5's multiple is the simplest thing! if don't know it, know it now... to get 45^2 place these two products side by side... 4*(4+1) and (5^5) ie 4*5 and 5*5 ie 2025...
similarly 105^2 = (10*11)(5*5)=11025

Well, for that matter, there are methods that are way simpler than yours for squaring numbers:

65^2=(65)(60)+5^2

105^2 =(100)(110)+25^2 ,

and even for larger numbers, it is easy:

988^2 =(988+12)(988-12)+12^2=(976)(1000)+144=976144

But I still believe you're using a variant of the binomial.
etc.
 
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Sorry, I realized I came off as an *** , please ignore my post.
 
...i know there are simpler methods, I'm just excited cause this is "my discovery"... as i said, i don't know if this is already known or not, but i found it on my own :)
 

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