Square Roots Calculation Tricks

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The discussion revolves around methods for quickly calculating square roots and squares, particularly focusing on techniques that can expedite these calculations without relying on traditional methods. Participants explore various strategies, including modular arithmetic and specific formulas for sums of squares.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about fast calculation methods for square roots and squares, specifically for numbers between 10 and 30.
  • One participant mentions an article outlining tricks for calculating squares of numbers ending in 5 and within specific ranges, but seeks additional methods for numbers from 10 to 30.
  • Another participant discusses the lack of shortcuts for the sum of two squares, providing specific calculations as examples.
  • Several participants suggest using modular arithmetic to determine the last digit of sums of squares, noting that this can help eliminate incorrect multiple-choice answers.
  • One participant proposes a formula for finding the last two digits of the sum of squares of two-digit numbers, detailing how to derive it from the digits of the numbers involved.
  • There are repeated requests for clarification and simpler examples to illustrate the proposed methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the effectiveness of different methods for calculating squares and square roots. While some techniques are discussed in detail, there is no consensus on a single best approach, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some methods discussed depend on specific conditions, such as the last digits of numbers or the ranges of numbers considered. The effectiveness of these methods may vary based on the context in which they are applied.

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Individuals interested in mathematical shortcuts, particularly in the context of competitive exams or quick calculations in mathematics, may find the discussion beneficial.

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hi all...

i have problem about square roots for fast calculation, like below sample :

is there fast calculation method not commonly/usually ways.

it's possible?

please, see my picture?

thanks in advance..

susanto
 

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i find article solving square root calculation

In this article we are solving squares
1) number with last digit 5.
2) from 30 to 50.
3) from 50 to 80.
4) from 80 to 100.
5) from 100 to 130.

please see SQUARE ROOTS TRICKS - MATH SHORTCUT TRICKS ~ QUESTION PAPER

but my question or my problem is how do make for number " from 10 to 30", with quickly method

like sample :

12^2+23^2 = ...
9^2+27^2+15^2 = ...
etc...
 
Hello, susanto3311!

I have problem about square roots . . . You mean "squares".

$(1)\;21^2+13^2$
With the sum of two squares, there is no shortcut.

$21^2 +13^2 \;=\;441+169 \;=\;610$


$(2)\;25^2 - 14^2$
Recall the identity: $\:a^2-b^2 \:=\: (a-b)(a+b)$

$25^2-14^2 \;=\;(25-14)(25+14) \;=\;(11)(39) \;=\;429$


$(3)\;25^2 + 16^2 - 24^2$
$25^2-24^2 + 16^2 \;=\;(25-24)(25+24) + 16^2 \;=\;(1)(49) + 256 =\;305$


$(4)\;21^2 - 19^2 + 8^2$
$(21 - 19)(21+19) + 8^2\;=\;(2)(40)+64\;=\;144$
 
Hello, Soroban!..

do you have a formula for a^2+b^2 = ...

thanks again!.
 
Soroban already answered this:

soroban said:
With the sum of two squares, there is no shortcut.

:D
 
hi guys...

how to fast identity last digit number to answer multiple choice question not overall calculation, just identity to get possibility right answer...

please see my picture...
 

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You can take the expression modulo 10 to investigate the last digit:

$$21^2 + 13^2 \bmod{10} = \left ( 21 \bmod{10} \right )^2 + \left ( 13 \bmod{10} \right )^2 = 1^2 + 3^2 \bmod{10} = 1 + 9 \bmod{10} = 10 \bmod{10} = 0$$

So the last digit is a zero (and you find that by considering only the last digit of all calculations involved, basically). It's an easy way to discard possible solutions, since the correct solution must end in a zero (but not all solutions that end in a zero are correct, of course). You can also try with different bases, not just 10, and the more bases you check the more possibilities you can eliminate, though base 10 is the simplest and easiest one.
 
Or if you don't want to use modular arithmetic then

$21^2+13^2$

consider the last digit from each number $1^2=1$ and $3^2=9$ , $9+1 = 10$ , last number being a zero..
 
hello pickslides..

your advice is great!

is your trick apply for all squares number?
 
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susanto3311 said:
hello pickslides..

your advice is great!

is your trick apply for all squares number?

You will find it does...

Same idea works when expanding binomials
 
  • #11
pickslides said:
You will find it does...

Same idea works when expanding binomials

hello pickslides..

the next challenge, how to find quickly / identify 2 last number from right not only 1 last number..

i really you have brilliant idea..
 
  • #12
another problem for cubes number ...

23^3-16^3
42^3-8^3

do you have brilliant formula?
 
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  • #13
susanto3311 said:
another problem for cubes number ...

23^3-16^3
42^3-8^3

do you have brilliant formula?
$$x^3-y^3 = (x-y)(x^2+xy+y^2)
$$
 
  • #14
pickslides said:
Or if you don't want to use modular arithmetic then

$21^2+13^2$

consider the last digit from each number $1^2=1$ and $3^2=9$ , $9+1 = 10$ , last number being a zero..

hello guys...

it's possible with or using pickslides's method, maybe need modify it..
 
  • #15
It's literally the same principle, play with the numbers a bit and see what you get, practice.
 
  • #16
susanto3311 said:
hello guys...

it's possible with or using pickslides's method, maybe need modify it..

If you wish to find the last 2 digits resulting from the sum of the squares of 2 two-digit numbers, then we can develop a formula as follows:

If the two digits of the first number are $a$ and $b$ and the two digits of the second number are $c$ and $d$, then we may write:

$$(10a+b)^2+(10c+d)^2=100\left(a^2+c^2\right)+20(ab+cd)+\left(b^2+d^2\right)$$

The portion that will affect the last two digits is:

$$20(ab+cd)+\left(b^2+d^2\right)$$

So, the last two digits of this number will have the same last two digits as the original sum. :D
 
  • #17
MarkFL said:
If you wish to find the last 2 digits resulting from the sum of the squares of 2 two-digit numbers, then we can develop a formula as follows:

If the two digits of the first number are $a$ and $b$ and the two digits of the second number are $c$ and $d$, then we may write:

$$(10a+b)^2+(10c+d)^2=100\left(a^2+c^2\right)+20(ab+cd)+\left(b^2+d^2\right)$$

The portion that will affect the last two digits is:

$$20(ab+cd)+\left(b^2+d^2\right)$$

So, the last two digits of this number will have the same last two digits as the original sum. :D

hi Mark, i confuse, could you explain to me with more simple example
like :

45^2+34^=...
 
  • #18
susanto3311 said:
hi Mark, i confuse, could you explain to me with more simple example
like :

45^2+34^=...

In this case we have:

$$a=4,\,b=5,\,c=3,\,d=4$$

And so we compute:

$$20(ab+cd)+\left(b^2+d^2\right)=20(20+12)+(25+16)=681$$

Thus we know the last 2 digits of the original sum are $81$, and to check, we have:

$$45^2+34^2=3181$$
 
  • #19
hi Mark, very clear...

thanks a lot...
 

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