Square shape wave packet spreading

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The discussion centers on the time evolution of a square-shaped wave packet for a 1D free particle, represented by the initial wave function \(\phi(x')\) defined as 1 within the interval [a,b] and vanishing elsewhere. The participants explore the differences in solving the Schrödinger equation (SE) in momentum space using the propagator \(U(t)\) and in position space, where the discontinuity of the wave function at the boundaries complicates the solution. The conversation highlights the necessity of transforming solutions from momentum space to position space and addresses the challenges faced when attempting to solve the SE directly in the coordinate representation.

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for a 1D free particle with initial wave function \phi(x') square shaped(e.g. \phi(x')=1,x'\in [a,b],otherwise it vanishes),
my question is: how does it evolve with time t?


if we deal with it in P basis, it is easily solved, using the propagator U(t)=∫|p'><p'|e^{-\frac{ip'^2 t}{2m\hbar}}dp';

but if we directly solve SE in X basis, where P must be written as -i\frac{∂}{∂x'}, the initial wavefunction is not continous, so the equation becomes improper at the ends of the interval[a,b],


so why dose the SE equation seems so distinct in these 2 representations? what goes wrong in X representation?
 
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my question comes thus:

suppose we set up a device to detect a particle, it can detect the particle when the particle occur with in the region [a,b],
so when the device really detected the particle, the wave function of the particle must collaspe to one vanishes without the region, in a special case, to a square shaped one.

I want to know its latter evolution, but I got confused when I tried to solve the SE directly in the Schrödinger representation .

Thanks for any tip.
 
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You can simply use the solution in momentum space and transform it to position space. That's also nicely done numerically if you can't find an analytic expression. In fact you have

\psi(t,x)=\langle x|\psi(t) \rangle=\int \mathrm{d} p \langle x | p \rangle \langle p|\psi> = \int \mathrm{d} p \frac{\exp(\mathrm{i} p x)}{\sqrt{2 \pi}} \tilde{\psi}(t,p).

Now you have

\tilde{\psi}(t,p)=\langle p |\exp[-\mathrm{i} \hat{p}^2/(2m)] \psi(t=0) \rangle = \exp[-\mathrm{i} p^2/(2m)] \tilde{\psi}_0(p).

The wave function at t=0 in the momentum-space representation is of course

\tilde{\psi}_0(p)=\int \mathrm{d} x \frac{\exp(-\mathrm{i} p x)}{(2 \pi)^{1/2}} \psi_0(x).

Now you have just to plug everything together.
 
vanhees71, thank you for your reply.

Your method is exactly what I mean by solving it using the propagator U(t) in terms of P's eigenbras and eigenkets.

What I wonder is why can't I solve it in coordinate space.

For example, after infinitesimal interval \Delta t, by -i\hbar\frac{\partial}{\partial t}|\psi\rangle=H|\psi\rangle, we have
\Delta|\psi\rangle=\frac{\Delta t}{i\hbar}H|\psi\rangle.

if we work in P basis, that's no problem, since then
\Delta\psi(p)=\frac{p^2\Delta t}{i 2m\hbar}\psi(p), and \psi(p) behaves very well.

however, if we work in X basis,
\Delta\psi(x)=i\hbar\Delta t\frac{\partial^2}{\partial t^2}\psi(x), but look at how \frac{\partial^2}{\partial t^2}\psi(x) behaves here, it just becomes improper.

with this perspective, how could these two methods lead to the same result?
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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