Squaring both sides of an equation: To include or not to include the minus sign?

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The discussion revolves around the equation x - 3√x - 16 = 0 and the implications of squaring both sides of the equation, particularly regarding the treatment of the minus sign and the correct approach to squaring terms involving a square root.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore whether to include the minus sign when squaring terms and discuss the necessity of isolating the root before squaring. There are differing views on how to properly square the equation and the implications of squaring individual terms versus the entire expression.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing various perspectives on the correct method to square the equation. Some guidance has been offered regarding isolating the root term and the potential complexity of squaring the entire side of the equation. Multiple interpretations of the squaring process are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the original equation and the rules of algebraic manipulation, particularly in the context of homework guidelines that may influence their approach.

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say the i had the equation x -3√x - 16 = 0, if I was to square every term to get rid of the root would it be:

1) x + 9x + 16 = 0
2) x - 9x - 16 = 0

Just confused if I should include the minus sign
 
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You have to square the whole side - so you should have an x2 in there too.
You don't get to square each term by themselves - you have to square the whole thing.

note: 5-(3+2)=0

square each term

25 - (9+4) = 0 nope
25 + (9+4) = 0 nope

see? both are wrong.

in general, just because a+b=c it does not follow that a2+b2=c2

To get rid of the root, isolate it on the LHS before squaring both sides.
 
You should isolate your root term so that you get

3sqrt x = x-16

So when you square both sides you get

(3sqrt x)^2 = (x-16)(x-16)

You could square the whole side too as Simon pointed out but it's more laborious.
 
Of course, another option is to do the substitution y=\sqrt{x} and then solve for y.
 
phospho said:
say the i had the equation x -3√x - 16 = 0, if I was to square every term to get rid of the root would it be:

1) x + 9x + 16 = 0
2) x - 9x - 16 = 0

Just confused if I should include the minus sign

If you're going to square the whole side, you get (x -3√x - 16)(x -3√x - 16). You can't just look at one term and square it, and ignor the other terms on that side. In this case, there are six multiplications that have to be done if you take this approach. You did one.
 
Feodalherren said:
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(3sqrt x)^2 = (x-16)(x-16)

You could square the whole side too as Simon pointed out but it's more laborious.
... and in your example, you have squared the whole side (for both sides). That's what I meant: see last line post #2 :)

I had hoped to lead phospho to do the actual manipulation... oh well.
 

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