Srednicki CH26 Explained: Solving Eqn 26.7

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of equation 26.7 from Srednicki's text, focusing on the transformation into d-dimensional polar coordinates and the implications for the volume element in the context of massless particles. Participants explore the mathematical details and seek clarification on specific terms and their relationships.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the equation involves transforming into d-dimensional polar coordinates and attempts to derive the expression for the volume element.
  • Another participant suggests that the solid angle must include terms like sin^{d-3}d\theta, but questions why Srednicki does not include two instances of the sine term.
  • A reference to Hassani's "Mathematical Physics" is made, indicating that it contains relevant information on spherical coordinates in N dimensions.
  • One participant expresses difficulty in accessing the specific page in Hassani's book and mentions finding similar information on Wikipedia regarding the volume element.
  • Another participant clarifies that the tilde in equation 26.7 indicates proportionality and notes that while there are additional angles in the volume elements, they can be integrated out when computing cross sections.
  • A suggestion is made to consult Zwiebach's book on String Theory for further insights on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of the sine terms in the volume element, with some questioning Srednicki's approach and others providing references to support their claims. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact treatment of these terms.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations in accessing specific resources and the potential for differing interpretations of the volume element in d-dimensional space. There is also mention of the integration of angles in the context of cross sections, which may affect the final expression.

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Hi,

I was wondering if anyone could explain how Srednicki gets to his eqn 26.7:

[tex]\tilde{dk_1}\tilde{dk_2} \sim (\omega^{d-3}_{1}d\omega_1) (\omega^{d-3}_{2}d\omega_2)(sin^{d-3}\theta d\theta)[/tex]

I thought this would be to do with transforming into some kind of d-dimensional polar coords so I start as:


[tex]\tilde{dk_1}\tilde{dk_2}=\frac{d^{d-1}k_1}{(2\pi)^{d-1}2\omega_{1}}\frac{d^{d-1}k_2}{(2\pi)^{d-1}2\omega_{2}}=\frac{\vec{k_1}^{d-2}d\vec{k_1}d\Omega_{d-2}\vec{k_2}^{d-2}d\vec{k_2}d\Omega_{d-2}}{(2\pi)^{d-1}2\omega_{1}(2\pi)^{d-1}2\omega_{2} }[/tex]

Now since he's working in the massless limit [tex]\omega_{1,2}=\vec{k}_{1,2}[/tex]


[tex]\tilde{dk_1}\tilde{dk_2}=\frac{\omega^{d-3}_{1}d\omega_{1}d\Omega_{d-2}\omega^{d-3}_{2}d\omega_{2}\Omega_{d-2}}{4(2\pi)^{d-1}(2\pi)^{d-1} }[/tex]

[tex]\tilde{dk_1}\tilde{dk_2}=(\omega^{d-3}_{1}d\omega_{1})(\omega^{d-3}_{2}d\omega_{2}) \frac{d\Omega_{d-2}d\Omega_{d-2}}{4(2\pi)^{d-1}(2\pi)^{d-1}}[/tex]

Which looks quite similar to what he has, but not there yet. I'm guessing that the solid angle must go something like

[tex]d\Omega_{d-2}=sin^{d-3}d\theta \times d\phi_{1}d\phi_{2}...[/tex]

Which probably cancels out a few [tex]\pi[/tex]'s but then why doesn't he have two lot's of the sin term?

Thanks for any help on this
 
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Some of my vectors should have modulus bars around them by the way, but I couldn't figure out the Latex command, hopefully it will be obvious from context anyway...
 
Spherical coordinates in N dimensions are treated in Hassani "Mathematical Physics" p 593. If you open it in Google books you can find the relevant page. It has the volume element etc.
 
Thanks, I can't seem to find the page you refer to, when I look at Hassani on google books I either seem to get his mathematica book or I get math methods but with not enough pages, could you possibly link me to the one you're looking at?

I found the volume on wiki anyway I believe under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-sphere, suggesting to me if I'm in d-1 spatial dimensions:

[tex]d\Omega=sin^{d-3}\theta_{1}sin^{d-4}\theta_{2}...[/tex]

but given that I have two lots of [tex]d\Omega[/tex] I would still expect Srednicki to have his sine term squared? even if he's neglecting the lower power sines for whatever reason...
 
I can't link directly to the page in question. The problem with the preview is that you can only look at a limited number of pages before you get blocked. Of course you can delete your cookie and try again until you get to the right page !

Anyway it only contained the same info as the wiki page that you found. Hopefully you managed to sort out the problem now.

Incidentally, I assume in eq 26.7, the tilde just means "is proportional to" - there are other angles in the volume elements, but they can all be integrated out when computing cross sections. However, the amplitude T will depend upon the angle [itex]\theta[/itex] between the spatial momenta, so the only bits we're interested in are the 2 [itex]d\omega[/itex]s and [itex]d\theta[/itex]
 
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Zwiebach's book on String Theory also has a thorough treatment on this subject in one of the first chapters.
 

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