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The discussion revolves around a physics puzzle involving the stacking of bricks in two parts: first, determining how far the edge of the last brick can extend to the right without causing the structure to collapse, and second, exploring the maximum distance of a brick from a line drawn between the bottom and top bricks when arranged in an arc. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and mathematical exploration.

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  • Some participants clarify that the problem is a puzzle rather than homework, encouraging others to solve it independently.
  • One participant notes that the first part of the puzzle is well-known and refrains from providing a solution, while offering a different answer for part two.
  • Another participant questions whether the answer provided for part two should refer to "nearly half a brick length" instead of "nearly one brick length," suggesting a possible misunderstanding of the problem's constraints.
  • A later reply specifies that the transition step allows for a backward movement of "1 - 1/(2n)" where n is the number of bricks stacked in one direction, indicating a mathematical approach to the problem.

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Participants generally agree that the first part of the puzzle is well-known, but there is no consensus on the specifics of the second part, with differing interpretations and proposed answers remaining unresolved.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the stability of the brick structure and the definitions of terms like "transition step," which may not be universally understood among participants.

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Part 1:
You have an unlimited supply of indestructible bricks that are 10cm long and 4cm high. After some thougt, you realize that building a huge wall to keep immigrants out is a dumb idea, you decide to do something more creative with them. Since sticking things together, reinforcing structures and using concrete are all techniques foreign to you, you decide to put one brick on the ground, put another one on top of if, then another one on top of that, etc. How far to the right can you get the edge of the last brick from the center of the first one without making the whole structure colapse?

Part 2
You now decide to make a sort of an arc. You start stacking bricks leaning towards the right, and then you stop and start stacking them towards the left, until the center of the last brick is over the center of the first brick. If you draw a line from the bottom brick to the top brick in this structure, what can the maximum distance of a brick from that line be?
 
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Andreas C said:
Part 1:
You have an unlimited supply of indestructible bricks that are 10cm long and 4cm high. After some thougt, you realize that building a huge wall to keep immigrants out is a dumb idea, you decide to do something more creative with them. Since sticking things together, reinforcing structures and using concrete are all techniques foreign to you, you decide to put one brick on the ground, put another one on top of if, then another one on top of that, etc. How far to the right can you get the edge of the last brick from the center of the first one without making the whole structure colapse?

Part 2
You now decide to make a sort of an arc. You start stacking bricks leaning towards the right, and then you stop and start stacking them towards the left, until the center of the last brick is over the center of the first brick. If you draw a line from the bottom brick to the top brick in this structure, what can the maximum distance of a brick from that line be?
If this is homework, please repost to the homework->precalc forum.
 
haruspex said:
If this is homework, please repost to the homework->precalc forum.

That is not homework, that is a puzzle intended to be solved by the members of this forum! If you know the answer, feel free to post it, but with a spoiler, so that others can solve it themselves!
 
Andreas C said:
That is not homework, that is a puzzle intended to be solved by the members of this forum! If you know the answer, feel free to post it, but with a spoiler, so that others can solve it themselves!
Oh, ok. The first part is very well known, so I won't post a solution to that.
For part 2, I offer an answer to a different question.
The number of bricks in the lower section, heading to the right, is roughly the square of the number of bricks in the upper section.
 
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haruspex said:
Oh, ok. The first part is very well known, so I won't post a solution to that.
For part 2, I offer an answer to a different question.
The number of bricks in the lower section, heading to the right, is roughly the square of the number of bricks in the upper section.

That counts as an answer I guess. Can anyone prove this conclusion?
 
Single-sided stack: brick n from the top can be 1/(2n) brick lengths ahead of brick n+1 to stay in balance, that is the optimal strategy. The harmonic series diverges, therefore arbitrary overhead length can be reached, but the number of bricks needed is about n = e2x up to a numerical prefactor, where x is the overhang length in multiples of the brick length. Note that doubling x means squaring n.

Two-sided: The top stack is like the single-sided stack, at the transition region we can go back by nearly one brick length in one step, afterwards we are stuck in the same pattern again. Neglecting this one brick length, we get the same situation as for the single-sided stack, where the bottom part doubles x and therefore squares the number of total blocks. For large n we can approximate n(n-1) as n2.
 
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Good answer, but did you mean "nearly half a brick length" instead of "nearly one brick length"? You can't really go more than half a brick length, unless of course you mean precisely AT the transitional step...
 
Yes, I mean the transition step: the first in the opposite direction, as seen from the top. We can go backwards by 1 - 1/(2n) where n is the number of bricks that were stacked in one direction.
 

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