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The discussion revolves around the anticipation and reactions to the 2009 Star Trek film, exploring themes of nostalgia, character portrayals, and concerns about modern filmmaking techniques. Participants express their expectations, critiques, and personal anecdotes related to the Star Trek franchise.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express excitement about the film, citing nostalgia for the original series and the hope for a good plot and acting.
  • Concerns are raised about the heavy use of CGI and the portrayal of Kirk driving a Corvette, which some view as anachronistic and a marketing gimmick.
  • Several participants mention positive reviews from critics, highlighting the actors' performances and the engaging storyline.
  • Some express skepticism about the film's modern style, feeling it contrasts with the original series' aesthetic.
  • There are humorous anecdotes shared about dressing up for the film and past experiences with Star Trek movies.
  • Critiques of product placement in the film are noted, with some participants expressing disdain for blatant advertising.
  • Discussion includes reflections on memorable moments from previous Star Trek films and series, showcasing a mix of fondness and critical analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express a mix of excitement and skepticism about the film, with no clear consensus on its potential quality or the effectiveness of its modern elements.

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Some participants reference personal experiences with the original series and previous films, which may influence their expectations and critiques of the new film. There are also mentions of differing opinions on the effectiveness of CGI and modern storytelling techniques.

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Fans of the Star Trek franchise, those interested in film critiques, and individuals curious about the cultural impact of the Star Trek series may find this discussion relevant.

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From the first scene the Star Trek universe as we knew it has changed forever. Kirk is now an angry wayward young man looking for trouble...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0796366/

Double-click to watch the trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4vk5OZmn8

Expectations?

It looks like they use my idea of a reentry suit.
 
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I don't know how I feel about 2 hours of CGI. There is one trailer where Kirk stole an old corvette.....I'm thinking to myself, why is he driving a corvette in the future? It just came off as a cheap, "look its an american car" ploy to get some audience woo hoos.

Speaking of Kirk, did you know shatner has his own youtube page? I was watching them all last night and he's a piece of work!

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It may be a recipe for disappointment, but I'm really looking forward to it. I grew up watching Star Trek with Kirk...although this won't be the same, it kind of warms my heart to see a throwback to the old days. The action looks pretty good. I just hope that it has a good plot and acting, which is something that I've been repeatedly disappointed on with the majority of big-ticket movies in the last 5 years
 
junglebeast said:
It may be a recipe for disappointment, but I'm really looking forward to it. I grew up watching Star Trek with Kirk...although this won't be the same, it kind of warms my heart to see a throwback to the old days. The action looks pretty good. I just hope that it has a good plot and acting, which is something that I've been repeatedly disappointed on with the majority of big-ticket movies in the last 5 years


"At the Movies" reviewed it on Saturday, and they both liked it (It was the only movie of the 5 that they reviewed, including the new Wolverine film, that they liked.)

Some of the things that they said:

The actors did a good job of capturing the essence of the characters without trying to mimic the original actors.

The story line was engaging and was character driven.

It had a good balance between paying homage to the original while still being accessible to anyone not familiar with the series.

I've heard that other reviews are also positive.
 
My friends a star trek nerd and might dressed up for it.

Thus I'm currently looking for someone else to go see it with.
 
Pengwuino said:
My friends a star trek nerd and might dressed up for it.

Thus I'm currently looking for someone else to go see it with.

It would also be hilarious to just dress up and go with him! Once when I was in college my buddies and I decided to go out and see a movie, it was a random forgettable movie having to do with war, and we all dressed up like soldiers and pretended like we were huge fans of the movie..definitely funny and worthwhile :biggrin:
 
junglebeast said:
It would also be hilarious to just dress up and go with him! Once when I was in college my buddies and I decided to go out and see a movie, it was a random forgettable movie having to do with war, and we all dressed up like soldiers and pretended like we were huge fans of the movie..definitely funny and worthwhile :biggrin:

No..
 
First trailer I thought it looked super hokey. Second time watching trailer I think it may be good. At least the trailer music was good!
 
I'm looking forward to it.
 
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I saw the first trailer (where there's the guy welding away) and didn't realize it was a trailer for the Star Trek movie until Leonard Nimoy came on to do the "Space: The final frontier..." bit, and the notes from TOS started playing. I thought it was cool.
 
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Cyrus said:
There is one trailer where Kirk stole an old corvette.....I'm thinking to myself, why is he driving a corvette in the future?

That trailor kinda put me off too.
 
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The original Star Trek series came out when I was in 8th-10th grades and made a major impression on me. During the past couple of years, I've been watching the remastered version on syndicated TV (I have to record it because my local station shows it at 5 AM ), bought the remastered DVDs as they came out, and my copy of the Blu-ray version of season 1 arrived yesterday.

But I have to admit I've seen only part of one of the Star Trek movies, the one that shows Scotty (I think) trying to use an early Macintosh computer by picking up the mouse and speaking into it: "Hellooo, computer..." :smile:

Maybe I'll go see this one, although with some trepidation despite the favorable reviews. I've seen trailers on TV, and the modern-style sets and effects come off (to me) as anachonistically "busy" and glitzy compared to the bare-bones, cheesy sets of the original series. The more I watch the remastered series on DVD and Blu-ray, the more impressed I am with how important lighting effects are, in the scene designs.
 
  • #13
jtbell said:
But I have to admit I've seen only part of one of the Star Trek movies, the one that shows Scotty (I think) trying to use an early Macintosh computer by picking up the mouse and speaking into it: "Hellooo, computer..." :smile:

Yep! IIRC, that was in The Voyage Home

Another one of my favorites scenes:

Chekov: [to a street cop] Excuse me, sir! Can you direct us to the naval base in Alameda? It's where they keep the nuclear wessels.
[he pauses, looks at Uhura, and tries again]
Chekov: NUCLEAR WESSELS...

Back then, the idea of a person with a thick Russian accent asking for the location of the nuclear wessels was classic.
 
  • #14
I've only gone to the movies twice in the last 10 years. I plan on being in the theater this weekend.
 
  • #15
Star Trek XII - So Very Tired might be in order here:
 
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Ivan Seeking said:
Yep! IIRC, that was in The Voyage Home

Another one of my favorites scenes:

Chekov: [to a street cop] Excuse me, sir! Can you direct us to the naval base in Alameda? It's where they keep the nuclear wessels.
[he pauses, looks at Uhura, and tries again]
Chekov: NUCLEAR WESSELS...

Back then, the idea of a person with a thick Russian accent asking for the location of the nuclear wessels was classic.

There's a story that goes with that scene. It was shot with "off the street" extras, who were told to just look at them strangely and move on. One gal got carried away with the moment and actually answered them, Walter's and Nichelle's reactions were ad-lib. It worked so well, they decided to keep it, but then they had to chase down the girl to get her to sign a contract or they would have gotten fined by SAG for not paying a person in a "speaking role" scale.
 
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I saw another clip on the star trek website that made me go uhhhhhhhhhh...

There is a bar scene where the girl orders two orange bling blang drinks, a tamalian sling slong (or whatever treky sounding word you want to use, I don't care), and give me a Budweiser select...

Way to sell out there Star Trek. Does the Enterprise have a big "Goodyear" sticker on the side too?

I hate blatant advertising in movies for products that really have no business in a movie.

Captain Kurk, what are you doing? Why I'm just brushing my teeth with my favorite toothpase, Colgate. Would you like to join me?
 
  • #21
Cyrus said:
I saw another clip on the star trek website that made me go uhhhhhhhhhh...

There is a bar scene where the girl orders two orange bling blang drinks, a tamalian sling slong (or whatever treky sounding word you want to use, I don't care), and give me a Budweiser select...

Way to sell out there Star Trek. Does the Enterprise have a big "Goodyear" sticker on the side too?

I'm sure Budweiser would prefer it be considered prophetic.

I hate blatant advertising in movies for products that really have no business in a movie.

Captain Kurk, what are you doing? Why I'm just brushing my teeth with my favorite toothpase, Colgate. Would you like to join me?

"Kirk", you dweeb!

I don't mind as long as it isn't excessive. I do remember a few movies that seemed like The Truman show.
 
  • #22
jtbell said:
The original Star Trek series came out when I was in 8th-10th grades and made a major impression on me. During the past couple of years, I've been watching the remastered version on syndicated TV (I have to record it because my local station shows it at 5 AM ), bought the remastered DVDs as they came out, and my copy of the Blu-ray version of season 1 arrived yesterday.

I've been watching the remastered versions locally too (at a better time, Sunday afternoons). This last week they showed "The Cage", the original pilot (not "The Menagerie" into which they spliced parts of "The Cage").
One thing I noticed was that for the exterior shots of the Enterprise, the CGI model matched the model used in the original episode. A nice touch, I thought, since it would have been easier to just use the same CGI model for all the remastered episodes.
 
  • #23
Unfortunately, the current broadcast version of "The Cage" is only about 2/3 the length of the full remastered version on DVD: about 43 minutes (after subtracting commercials) versus 63 minutes! It omits the Rigel VII castle fight scene completely, along with many bits and pieces elsewhere.

The DVD also has an "extended version" which seems to be an earlier (non-remastered) version that includes commentary by Gene Roddenberry and has some scenes in black and white instead of color. It runs to about 70 minutes, probably mainly because of Roddenberry. Adding a few minutes of Roddenberry's commentary to the full remastered version, and a standard complement of commercials, would bring it to just the right length for a 90-minute time slot.
 
  • #24
Picard is the one and only Captain, TNG! <Runs and hides>

http://gregfriis.net/picard.jpg
 
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  • #25
Do you think this movie would make a good first date?

What am I talking about?! Of course it is!
 
  • #26
jtbell said:
Unfortunately, the current broadcast version of "The Cage" is only about 2/3 the length of the full remastered version on DVD: about 43 minutes (after subtracting commercials) versus 63 minutes! It omits the Rigel VII castle fight scene completely, along with many bits and pieces elsewhere.
Yeah, I've mtoiced that they've cut up a all the episodes they broadcast
The DVD also has an "extended version" which seems to be an earlier (non-remastered) version that includes commentary by Gene Roddenberry and has some scenes in black and white instead of color. It runs to about 70 minutes, probably mainly because of Roddenberry. Adding a few minutes of Roddenberry's commentary to the full remastered version, and a standard complement of commercials, would bring it to just the right length for a 90-minute time slot.

When they made "The Menagerie", they only used parts of "The Cage". Without thinking much of it, they tossed the bits they didn't use. For years, fans lamented the fact that they would never see the original pilot in its entirety. Then, one day in the 80's, while clearing out an closet in one of the Old Desilu buildings, they found a box with some film canisters in it. The cansisters held the Black and White master for "The Cage". They spliced the B&W sections into the parts used in "The Menagerie", and the "missing" pilot was restored.
 
  • #27
Real Trekkies are quite disappointed that the film is enjoyable.
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film
 
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Anyone see the movie? It came out today.
 
  • #29
I'm probably going to see it on Saturday, but then again, it looks like the weather's going to be great...

- Warren
 
  • #30
Cyrus said:
Anyone see the movie? It came out today.

Ahem... It's still yesterday over here...
 

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