Stars eventually die because they use up their fuel right?

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The discussion revolves around the life cycle of stars, their eventual death due to fuel depletion, and the implications for the universe's future. Participants explore concepts related to stellar evolution, energy extraction from elements, and the long-term fate of the universe.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that stars die because they exhaust their fuel, leading to questions about the future existence of suns.
  • There is a proposal that different sizes of stars utilize various elements, with larger stars potentially burning the remnants of smaller stars.
  • One participant mentions that eventually, all elements could be consumed, leaving only iron and heavier elements, which would not yield further energy.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of star death for life in the universe, suggesting a scenario of a cold universe.
  • A reference to the "heat death" scenario of the universe is made, indicating a long-term view of cosmic cooling and the eventual fate of stars.
  • Another participant discusses the possibility of brown dwarfs and white dwarfs colliding to form new stars, extending the timeline of stellar activity significantly.
  • There is speculation about the uncertainty of the universe's longevity, with the potential for cosmic changes leading to recollapse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the future of stars and the universe, with no consensus reached on the ultimate fate of the universe or the implications of star death for life.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of stellar evolution and the long timescales involved, as well as the uncertainty surrounding cosmic events that could alter the universe's fate.

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Stars eventually die because they use up their fuel right? If all of this fuel was to be used up, would there be no suns?
 
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Boogeyman said:
Stars eventually die because they use up their fuel right?
They convert elements into other elements extracting some energy.
Different size suns (and the same sun at different times during it's life) use different elements, so larger red suns can burn the 'waste' of smaller hotter suns.

If all of this fuel was to be used up, would there be no suns?
Ultimately all the elements could be burned to the point where there is no more energy to be extracted by burning them further - there would only be iron and heavier elements left.

- that's going to take a while though :-)
 


Yeah I know but if it happens that would mean death of life, and a cold universe?
 


Boogeyman said:
Yeah I know but if it happens that would mean death of life, and a cold universe?

Yes it does, as the Universe keeps expanding it cools, thus when the stars finally go out it will be very cold... but not everywhere. Every hundred billion years or so brown dwarfs will collide with each other or with a white dwarf and produce a new star that will last ~0.1-10 trillion years. Roughly a hundred such dim stars will burn in our Galaxy at a time, for about 10,000 quadrillion years until the Galaxy falls apart. After that happens the hottest things will be neutron stars "glowing" at 3 K from proton-decay... very, very cold.

But we don't yet know if the Universe will last that long - it might recollapse due to some cosmic change.
 

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