State vs Orbital: What's the Difference & Pauli Exclusion Principle

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The discussion centers around the distinction between density of states and density of orbitals, as well as the implications of the Pauli exclusion principle on electron occupancy in orbitals. Participants explore these concepts in the context of molecular and solid-state physics, addressing theoretical and conceptual aspects.

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  • Some participants define an orbital as a spatial one-particle wave function, while a state refers to a many-particle state characterized by a wave function with multiple spin-space coordinates.
  • It is proposed that a spatial orbital can be occupied by two electrons, corresponding to two spin-orbitals derived from one spatial orbital.
  • Others argue that the terms "state" and "orbital" are often conflated in discussions, particularly in solid-state physics, where the correspondence between them can be misused.
  • Some participants mention that in strongly interacting systems, "natural orbitals" can be defined, which differ from canonical Hartree-Fock orbitals and reflect the complexity of electron interactions.
  • There is a suggestion that the density of states may not directly correspond to single orbital excitations in strongly interacting systems, and that the concept of configurational occupations may be more appropriate.
  • A later reply introduces an analogy comparing electron interactions to planetary motion, emphasizing that while orbitals provide a useful approximation, they cannot fully describe the many-body problem without considering electron correlation.
  • One participant mentions the specific case of "Harmonium," a two-electron system with an analytical solution, to illustrate the limitations of separating wave functions into single-electron functions.

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Participants express differing views on the definitions and implications of states and orbitals, indicating that multiple competing views remain. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the nuances of these concepts.

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Limitations include the potential for misunderstanding the relationship between states and orbitals, as well as the complexities introduced by electron interactions in many-body systems. The discussion also highlights the challenges in applying theoretical models to real-world systems.

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I keep seeing density of states and sometimes density of orbitals. What is the difference between a state and an orbital?

Also, due to Pauli exclusion principle, does each orbital contain 1 or 2 electrons? I'm guessing each orbital have 1 electron, and there can be 2 orbitals with same quantum number n, but different spin m_1/2. Am i correct?

Thanks!
 
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Let us first consider molecules.

First, orbitals and occupations: An orbital is a spatial one-particle wave function (i.e., a three-dimensional function of xyz). A spin-orbital is a function with three spatial coordinates and one discrete spin coordinate (say, up/down or alpha/beta).
Orbitals are used to form many-particle wave functions by plugging them into determinants; if you do this, then there is exactly one spin-orbital for each electron. Now you can form up to two spin-orbitals out of one spatial orbital (by just taking the 3d space function and multiplying it by the alpha- or beta-spin functions), so a spatial orbital can also be occupied by two electrons in one determinant.

About the state: In principle, ``states'' refers to a many-particle state (characterized by a wave function with num-electrons spin-space coordinates). A general many-particle state /cannot/ be represented by a single determinant, and certainly not by a set of orbitals. That means in principle ``state'' and ``orbital'' are two completely unrelated concepts.

Nevertheless, there are many well-behaved closed-shell and high-spin electronic states of which the coarse electronic structure can be represented by a single determinant (or people just assume that is the case). In that case you can specify the ``state'' by the set of orbitals to be plugged into a determinant--one spin orbital for each electron. This determinant then forms the leading term (say, weight >90%) if this state wave function should be expressed as a superposition of many determinants via a configuration interaction, coupled cluster or some other procedure.

Now, regarding the solids.

The solids have very large electronic systems, which allow them to account for lots of relaxiation and orbital re-arrangement effortlessly[1] when one electron is moved from one orbital to another one. (Orbital in this sense typically means Bloch orbital or Wannier orbital, and there is an infinite number of them).

In this sense, the ``state'' which is meant when an orbital is specified is the state where one orbital was re-arranged, and all the other orbitals were left as they are. So there is a correspondence between orbitals and states, and people like to abuse that correspondence very much. Also in naming their objects.

So sometimes you can see actual calculations of ``density of states'' where state does not mean orbital (these would come out of propagator calculations via the Dyson equation, for example), while usually ``density of states'' just means ``density of orbitals'' and refers to orbitals obtained from a periodic DFT calculation.

[1] For example, if one electron is promoted from the valence band (occupied orbitals) to the conduction band (unoccupied orbitals/virtual orbitals), then the resulting hole in the valence band and the particle in the conduction band can often separate spatially; the process can thus be considered as a superposition of independent ionization and electron attachment phenomena. That is why in solids you can get approximate excitation spectra from DFT band structures, which actually give approximation to electron affinities and ionization potentials.
 
cgk, that is a nice explanation. I just wanted to add that even in strongly interacting systems (which are not well described by one determinant), one can define so called "natural orbitals" which are the eigenstates of the 1-particle density matrix. If the wavefunction is well represented through one determinant, they become equal to the canonical Hartree Fock orbitals. However, in general, the occupation probability ranges continuously somewhere between 0 and 1.

In principle I would use the term "density of states" for the density of the energy of the excited electronic states of the whole molecule. In strongly interacting system, it may have only little resemblance with some single orbital excitations. But Coopmans theorem allows to estimate at least the energy of the HOMO from the ionization energy.
 
DrDu said:
I just wanted to add that even in strongly interacting systems (which are not well described by one determinant), one can define so called "natural orbitals" which are the eigenstates of the 1-particle density matrix. If the wavefunction is well represented through one determinant, they become equal to the canonical Hartree Fock orbitals. However, in general, the occupation probability ranges continuously somewhere between 0 and 1.

Aw, I saw this earlier and was going to say that. Oh well, I'll contribute a link to Löwdin's classic http://link.aps.org/doi/10.1103/PhysRev.97.1474" (which is not obvious). So the partial occupations come about through the CI expansion coefficients. (So IMO it makes more sense to think about it as configurational occupations rather than orbital occupations)

Anyway, to address the original poster, as cgk pointed out, a real, interacting, system cannot be described in terms of orbitals. Orbitals describe individual electronic states, and since electrons interact, you (strictly speaking) cannot separate the system into individual electronic states like that.

To make an analogy, consider the solar system (this is a purely mathematical analogy, not physical, I am not suggesting a planetary model of the atom!). The orbit of every planet influences that of every other planet. It's a many-body problem. So you cannot describe the motion of a single planet around the sun without taking into account the motion of every other planet. But to a good approximation, you can regard the system as if the planets were orbiting independently, and treat the interdependence of the motion (the correlation) as a correction to that picture. This is of course how we visualize the solar system in practice.

The same goes for electrons in an atom. You can only view its state as composed of independent orbitals if you neglect the correlation (the Hartree-Fock/single Slater determinant picture), or if you allow the electrons' state to be described by many such orbitals (CI). Just as the picture of planets orbiting the sun, the HF picture is qualitatively more-or-less correct (energy-wise more than 95%), and you can view the correlation as a correction to this. So orbitals are important conceptually as they give a very simple yet mostly-correct way of visualizing the electronic behavior, and hence the properties of atoms and molecules. And they are important computationally, since it's easier to begin with the Hartree-Fock method and find ways to correct the last 5% or so, rather than to try to attack the (normally unsolvable) many-electron Schrödinger equation directly.

There is one case where you can solve the two-electron Schrödinger equation, namely "Harmonium" also known as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooke%27s_atom" . This is a two-electron 'atom' where you have replaced the Coulomb potential of the nucleus with a harmonic potential. So there is Coulomb repulsion between the electrons, which are connected by harmonic 'springs' to a point (the 'nucleus'). This happens to have an analytical solution, and the ground-state wave function is then:
[tex]\Psi(\mathbf{r}_{1},\mathbf{r}_{2}) = N\left(1+\frac{1}{2}|\mathbf{r}_{1}-\mathbf{r}_{2}|\right)\exp\left(-\frac{1}{4}\big(r_{1}^{2}+r_{2}^{2}\big)\right)[/tex]

Where [tex]\mathbf{r}_{1},\mathbf{r}_{2}[/tex] are the coordinates of the two electrons, and N is just a normalization factor. Note that the interelectronic distance is a factor - hence the real wave function cannot be separated into single-electron functions (orbitals) as so:
[tex]\Psi(\mathbf{r}_{1},\mathbf{r}_{2}) = \phi_1(\mathbf{r}_{1})\phi_2(\mathbf{r}_{2})[/tex]

But also note that if you eliminated that factor, it would become separable, and you would have such a product, each electron described by a Gaussian. In other words, the exact solution for two entirely non-interacting particles in a harmonic potential. But we can do slightly better than this and still have "orbitals". Rather than neglect the interaction and hence the |r1-r2| factor, you could include the electron-electron interaction as an average. Hence, substituting the factor for some average value. That is in essence what the Hartree-Fock method does, and it's the most accurate description you can get while insisting your system being described by functions of a single electron's coordinates. (Real example: Helium's ground state is -2.903 a.u., the best possible orbital description gives -2.86 a.u. The resulting energy is always higher because correlation lowers the energy.)

Finally, there's of course the case of the single-electron (hydrogenic) atom. If you only have a single electron, then the entire electronic wave function can be described in terms of that one function. So in that one case, the orbitals are the true electronic wave functions, and the orbital energies are those of the full atom.
 
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