Static Vs Dynamic Force Analysis in Mechanism

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the differences between static and dynamic force analysis in mechanisms, particularly focusing on their application to moving systems such as a four bar linkage. Participants explore the conditions under which each type of analysis is appropriate, considering factors like speed and acceleration.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define static force analysis as applicable to objects in static or dynamic equilibrium, not accounting for inertia, while dynamic force analysis considers objects in motion with acceleration and includes inertia effects.
  • One participant suggests that dynamic force analysis should be used when analyzing the forces on a coupler moving from position A to B, due to the presence of acceleration.
  • Another participant notes that the robustness of joints in mechanisms depends on the forces involved, indicating that dynamic forces may be more significant in cases of rapid acceleration, such as in a lightweight link of a small engine.
  • There is a suggestion that the choice between static and dynamic analysis depends on the speed of the mechanism, with dynamic analysis being necessary at high speeds and static analysis being sufficient at low speeds due to smaller inertia effects.
  • A participant questions whether there is a specific velocity or threshold value that determines when dynamic analysis should be applied, emphasizing that it may depend on the accelerations of the mechanism components.
  • It is mentioned that even mechanisms with low output velocities can experience significant accelerations, which should be considered on a case-by-case basis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the thresholds for applying static versus dynamic analysis, indicating that there is no consensus on a specific velocity or condition that dictates the choice between the two methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise criteria for analysis selection.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of considering both speed and acceleration when determining the appropriate force analysis method, but do not establish a clear guideline or threshold for these factors.

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When should static or dynamic force analysis be applied when analyzing moving mechanisms ?
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My understanding is that :
Static Force Analysis
  • carried out on objects in static or dynamic equilibrium, that is rigid bodies that are not moving or moving with zero acceleration
  • therefore, does not take into account the inertia of the object
Dynamic Force Analysis
  • carried out on objects in motion with an acceleration
  • therefore, takes into account the inertia of the object (along with the angular velocity and angular acceleration)
However, I have seen both static and dynamic force analysis applied to a moving four bar linkage. In the case where I would like to find the force applied to the coupler to move the mechanism from position A to B, would dynamic force analysis be used? Since, the velocity would not be constant, hence, it has an acceleration.

Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance.
 
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Welcome! :smile:
It depends on what force is greater.
We are interested on how robust the joint should be to resist those forces.
We can have a light link accelerating much and rapidly, like the connecting rod of a small engine: dynamic forces are more important in that case.
 
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Firstly, thank you for your help :smile:

In summary, it depends on the speed of the mechanism. So, for the same mechanism, if one is moving at very high speed, then dynamic analysis would be used. On the other hand, if it is moving at low speed, static analysis would be sufficient since the inertia effects are small.

However, is there a velocity or any other value threshold where dynamic analysis should be applied?
 
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Firstly, thank you for your help :smile:

In summary, it depends on the speed of the mechanism. So, for the same mechanism, if one is moving at very high speed, then dynamic analysis would be used. On the other hand, if it is moving at low speed, static analysis would be sufficient since the inertia effects are small.

However, is there a velocity or any other value threshold where dynamic analysis should be applied?
It depends on the accelerations of the mechanism components. There could be a mechanism with a low output velocity, but that experiences large accelerations in its components. Accelerations and mass are what generate force. It really should be taken on a case by case basis.
 
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