Statistical Physics: Proving "if p(a)=p(b)=p then p(ab) ≤ p^2

In summary, the problem at hand is to prove or disprove the statement "if p(a)=p(b)=p then p(ab) ≤ p^2" for any possible values of p, a, and b. After discussing the definitions of probability, independence, and disjoint events, it was determined that there are two cases to consider: 1) a and b are mutually exclusive, in which case p(a∩b) = 0, and 2) a and b are independent, in which case p(a∩b) = p(a)*p(b) = p^2. However, it is still necessary to prove that this statement holds true for all possible cases and values of p, a, and b
  • #36
rangatudugala said:
how come this possible ?P(a/b) = P(a ∩ b) / P(b)
That's what it is.
 
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You have the probability of a given b, so you are only looking at the subset of the possibilities where b has already happened. If the events are independent, the P(a ∩ b)=P(a)P(b), similarly P(a|b) = P(a). Test these against the formula, and you will see how it is true.
 
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rangatudugala said:
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Your formula ##P(A \cap B) = P(A) \, P(B)## is NOT a general, true formula; it is true if and only if ##A## and ##B## are "independent" events, such as getting 'heads' on toss 1 of a coin and getting 'tails' on toss 2, or successive particle emissions from a radioactive element. There are millions of real-world examples where it is false. (Or, maybe I mis-read the intent of your post, in which case you might have left out some crucial clarifying information.)
 
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  • #40
Do you not know that "P(a or b)= P(a)+ P(b)- P(a and b)"?

Also, way back in post #5, Ruber asked what "ab" meant and you never answered. Is it "a and b" or "a or b"?
 
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  • #41
HallsofIvy said:
Do you not know that "P(a or b)= P(a)+ P(b)- P(a and b)"?

Also, way back in post #5, Ruber asked what "ab" meant and you never answered. Is it "a and b" or "a or b"?
I hv already answered. probably you didn't see

here rewritten the question
prove or disprove the following
p(a) = P(b) = p (let say some valve, you can use what ever symbol ) then p(a ∩ b) ≤ p^2
 

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