Finding the Inverse of 2 (mod 17): Euclidean Extended Algorithm

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The original poster attempts to find the inverse of 2 modulo 17, specifically in the context of solving the congruence 2x ≡ 1 (mod 17). The problem involves using the Extended Euclidean Algorithm to determine the inverse.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the steps taken in applying the Extended Euclidean Algorithm, including the calculations leading to the greatest common divisor (gcd) and the subsequent back substitution. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the results, particularly concerning the correct value of the inverse.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide clarifications and alternative perspectives on the calculations, noting that the original poster's interpretation of the inverse may need adjustment. There is a productive exchange regarding the relationship between negative and positive equivalents in modular arithmetic.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of potential confusion regarding the method used and the expectations set by the original poster's teacher, indicating a possible gap in understanding the application of the Extended Euclidean Algorithm in this context.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I'm doing a problem by solving congruences but my question is simply trying to find the inverse of 2 \enspace (mod\enspace 17) from 2x \equiv 7(mod \enspace 17).

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Going forwards
1.) 2 = 17(0) + 2

2.) 17 = 2(8) + 1

3.) 2 = 1(2) + 0

Our gcd = 1 which means we can find the inverse starting with step 2.

Going backwards
4.) 1 = 17 - 2(8)

5.) 2 = 2 - 17(0) we wrote this from step 1 by setting the remainder equal to everything else.

6.) 1 = 17 - (2 - 17(0))(8) plug in the equation from step 5 into 2 from step 4.

7.) 1 = 17 - 2(8)

So our answer says the inverse is 8, but the answer is 9. Where am I messing up?
 

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Your answer says 1 = 17 - 2(8) = 17 + 2(-8).
Does that help?
 
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tnich said:
Your answer says 1 = 17 - 2(8) = 17 + 2(-8).
Does that help?

Oh, I remember my teacher wrote it like this. So, I'm kinda guessing. But the answer should be between 0 and 17? And just by looking at it 17 - 8 = 9. Is this the reason?
 
That's the reason. You could also say -8 ≡ 9 mod 17.
 
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Awesome! Thanks for helping me. There were a few other problems I had the same issue with and couldn't remember what else I was supposed to do, but now it all works.
 
One other thing that I think would help you would be to first write out the linear equation you are trying to solve. In this case, 2x = 1 mod 17 (I think was what you meant to say in the problem statement) implies that 2x + 17y = 1 for some integers x and y. That makes it clear what you are applying Euclid's algorithm to.
 
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My teacher never used this method so I don't know if I will actually use it but maybe we will. Thanks!
 

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