Stoichiometric Coefficients and Relative Concentrations

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the relationship between stoichiometric coefficients and the concentrations of reactants and products in chemical reactions, particularly in the context of equilibrium and the use of ICE tables. Participants explore whether the ratios of stoichiometric coefficients can be directly equated to changes in concentrations during a reaction.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether stoichiometric coefficients are equal to the ratio of concentrations in a reaction mixture, particularly in aqueous environments.
  • Another participant asserts that stoichiometric coefficients describe the reaction ratios rather than the composition of mixtures.
  • A participant discusses the use of ICE tables and expresses confusion about how the "change" in concentrations relates to stoichiometric coefficients, suggesting that it should reflect changes in molar amounts instead.
  • It is noted that in a mixture where volume is constant, changes in the number of moles can be equated to changes in concentrations.
  • A participant raises a specific example involving the Haber Process and questions the validity of substituting initial concentrations when the volume is unknown, expressing concern over the implications for calculating equilibrium constants.
  • Another participant states that if the volume is unknown, the problem cannot be solved using the given equilibrium constant.
  • One participant suggests that the total number of molecules on both sides of the equilibrium must be considered, indicating a need for balance in the reaction.
  • It is acknowledged that in some cases, the volume can be disregarded, and problems can be rescaled to simplify calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between stoichiometric coefficients and concentrations, with some agreeing that volume can cancel out in certain scenarios, while others emphasize the importance of knowing the volume for accurate calculations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these relationships in specific examples.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about volume and the applicability of stoichiometric ratios to concentration changes, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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For a simple equilibrium or non-equilibrium chemical reaction, while I understand that the ratio of the coefficients of each reactant/product is mathematically equal to the molar ratio, I am not quite sure whether or not it is equal to the ratio of concentrations of each component in the reaction mixture (assuming the reaction is taking place in an aqueous environment, for instance). Can someone please clarify this for me?
 
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I am not sure what your question is. In general stoichiometric coefficients describe the reaction (in what ratio substances react and are being produced) not composition of mixtures.
 
My question arose because of so-called ICE tables that are commonly used while solving equilibrium problems. My doubt is with regard to the "C" (change) part. I am given to understand that if we are to use the stoichiometric coefficients of each reactant/product in the equilibrium to compute in what proportion "change" is occurring in the equilibrium, it would be change in molar AMOUNT, not molar concentration (that is, of course, since the mole ratio and the stoichiometric coefficient ratio are exactly the same). But why do we assume that stoichiometric ratios indicate the change in concentrations of reactants/products in the equilibrium?
 
In general you are right that we should stick to moles, not to concentration. However, in the case of a mixture volume is identical for all substances involved, so the change in number of moles is equivalent to the change in concentrations (in other words: it is the same because volume cancels out).
 
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Does this apply even if we're given initial molar amounts of reactants/products?
Consider the Haber Process:
N2 + 3H2 <=> 2NH3
Kc = [NH3]2/[N2][H2]3
Suppose we're initially given 2 mol of N2 and 1 mol of H2, in a system of unknown volume, V.
Now, I understand that change is going to be -x for Nitrogen, -3x for Hydrogen, and +2x for Ammonia (x has dimensions mol/L).
While computing Kc for this equilibrium, can we substitute (2-x) for [N2] as though the initial concentration was 2 mol/L?
If we substitute the given data without glossing over any mathematical detail, we are left with:
Kc = (2x)2/(2/V mol - x)(1/V mol - 3x)3
If we do the binomial expansion, we would be left with Vs all over the place. I don't mean to be pedantic, it's just that I can't get my head around it and it's really bugging me.
 
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MohammedRady97 said:
Suppose we're initially given 2 mol of N2 and 1 mol of H2, in a system of unknown volume, V.

If the V is unknown, and you are given Kc, problem can't be solved.
 
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Unless the total number of molecules on the right is the same as the total number of molecules on the left of the equilibrium, am I getting this right?
 
Definitely in some cases volume doesn't matter and cancels out, yes.

Note you can always rescale the problem to V=1L, in which case volume again stops to matter.
 

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