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The discussion revolves around the experiences of an undergraduate student in a Nuclear Physics course, particularly focusing on the professor's teaching style, comments about textbooks, and the perceived difficulty of the material. Participants explore the implications of the professor's attitude and the challenges faced in understanding advanced concepts.

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  • The professor dismisses Kenneth Krane's Nuclear Physics book and expresses skepticism about Dirac's quantum mechanics text, suggesting it has many mistakes.
  • Some participants note that the professor's comments on the Dirac and Pauli equations as "lucky guesses" may contain some truth, but they argue it should be viewed as "educated lucky guesses."
  • There are concerns about the professor's preference for dense materials from obscure authors, which some find difficult to understand.
  • Participants suggest that the professor's teaching style may reflect disappointment in the educational system or a personal disposition, with some arguing he may not believe his efforts can make a difference.
  • Some participants recommend exploring multiple textbooks to gain different perspectives on quantum angular momentum, indicating that learning styles vary among students.
  • There is a recognition that the professor's call for more advanced algebra courses may be valid in principle, but it does not align with the current educational context.
  • The original poster expresses a desire to learn and engage with the material despite feeling unsupported, indicating a willingness to seek help and read from various sources.

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Participants generally express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the professor's teaching methods and the appropriateness of the materials. There is no consensus on the best approach to learning the material or the effectiveness of the professor's style.

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Some participants highlight the potential limitations of the professor's recommendations and the difficulty of the material, suggesting that the current educational structure may not adequately prepare students for advanced topics.

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Students in undergraduate physics programs, educators interested in teaching methodologies, and those exploring the challenges of advanced physics education may find this discussion relevant.

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I'm taking (undergraduate) Nuclear Physics this semester and while it's going well the kind of comments and attitude I'm getting from my professor confuse me. He dismissed Kenneth Krane's Nuclear Physics book when I told him I was studying from it. When talking about the Dirac equation and Pauli equation he'd basically compare them to a "lucky guess". He has told me that Dirac's book on quantum mechanics has many mistakes (I understand it might be outdated in some parts, but it seems he doesn't want to recommend it).

He goes on about angular momentum, and starts talking about Homeomorphism and homomorphism, rotation groups, and a D matrix in coordinate transformations for the spherical harmonics functions. I happen to have read a bit about that in Sakurai's "Modern Quantum Mechanics" and asked him if those were the Wigner D-matrices I read on Sakurai's and he said they were but he doesn't like the way it's taught in that book.

Whenever he recommends a book it's usually by some hard to find russian author and it's very dense material. I mean, I want to learn about this stuff, it's interesting to me. But when he explains it is barely understandable (even the professor will refuse to explain further saying we won't understand him) and when I try to read by myself it's difficult. My professor thinks we should have more advanced algebra courses in undergrad, but I can't imagine that if undergrad in my country is already 5 years (and many people finish it in 6-7 years).

Is it just me or is that stuff just brutal? Does anyone else see that in their undergrad physics?
If so I feel I need to catch up to what people are doing in other countries!
 
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It sounds like he is disappointed in the educational system and has little faith anything he says or does will make a difference anymore. I've seen it happen. Or he could just be an unpleasant person. ;)
 
danjordan said:
When talking about the Dirac equation and Pauli equation he'd basically compare them to a "lucky guess".
There's some truth in that, though I'd say "educated lucky guess". Neither Dirac nor Pauli were guessing in complete darkness.

He has told me that Dirac's book on quantum mechanics has many mistakes (I understand it might be outdated in some parts, but it seems he doesn't want to recommend it).
I'm not sure how many mistakes it has, but I certainly wouldn't recommend it for initially learning QM. Maybe study it later to get some additional insights (i.e., when you're more able to detect and autocorrect any typos or errors).

He goes on about angular momentum, and starts talking about Homeomorphism and homomorphism, rotation groups, and a D matrix in coordinate transformations for the spherical harmonics functions. I happen to have read a bit about that in Sakurai's "Modern Quantum Mechanics" and asked him if those were the Wigner D-matrices I read on Sakurai's and he said they were but he doesn't like the way it's taught in that book.
It's probably possible to find something to dislike in every textbook. Quantum angular momentum is a very important topic, so it would be in your interests to try and read it from different perspectives. I.e., try other textbooks (e.g., Ballentine). Not everyone learns the same way.

Whenever he recommends a book it's usually by some hard to find russian author and it's very dense material.
I know what you mean. Those ruskies sure demand a lot from their readers. But probably it just means you're not yet ready to study the material at that level, and you need something more introductory.

I mean, I want to learn about this stuff, it's interesting to me. But when he explains it is barely understandable (even the professor will refuse to explain further saying we won't understand him) and when I try to read by myself it's difficult.
That's another indication that you probably need a different textbook (or maybe more than 1). There's plenty of people in the PF quantum forum who would help with that.

My professor thinks we should have more advanced algebra courses in undergrad, but I can't imagine that if undergrad in my country is already 5 years (and many people finish it in 6-7 years).
Your professor is probably correct, in principle, but wrong in the sense that one must respond to the world as it is, not how one thinks it ought to be.

Is it just me or is that stuff just brutal? Does anyone else see that in their undergrad physics?
My u'grad physics lecturers were (mostly) quite sloppy in their math and it quickly became very frustrating. But many students were happy with it because it wasn't "too difficult". It sounds like you're in the opposite situation. OK, so you need to catch up on some aspects of the math? That's doable. People here on PF will help you, if you ask coherent questions.

BTW, another truism (which I had to learn the hard way) is this: if you really want to learn something difficult, first stow your ego in the basement for the duration.)
 
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Thanks to all and especially strangerep :) My ego is thankfully under control, I've also had learn how to do that and will swing by here more frequently.
I guess I was just venting a little because I really want to learn this stuff because I love it, it's mighty fun, I just don't feel I'm getting a very encouraging or directing message from the professor.
I do try to read from as many books as I can whether the prof likes it or not. I just wish there were more hours in a day :D
 

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