Am I wrong, or is my professor? Intensity Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conceptual understanding of sound wave intensity as it transitions from air to water. Participants explore the implications of this transition on intensity, frequency, wavelength, and velocity, engaging in a debate over the definitions and interpretations of intensity and energy transfer in different media.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • One participant argues that intensity increases when sound waves move from air to water, citing the relationship between intensity, power, and area.
  • Another participant questions how intensity can increase without adding power, suggesting that intensity is defined as power per unit area.
  • Some participants discuss the role of force and velocity in power, proposing that increased velocity could lead to higher power output.
  • There is a mention of the converging lens effect, with participants clarifying that it should not apply in this scenario.
  • Several participants emphasize that intensity measures the rate of energy transfer rather than the total energy available.
  • One participant notes that the conservation of energy must be considered, contrasting it with the concept of conservation of length.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of impedance matching when sound transitions from air to water, with a focus on the reflection of sound energy at the interface.
  • Some participants express that the original question posed may not be well-structured, leading to confusion in interpretation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the intensity of sound increases when transitioning from air to water. Multiple competing views are presented regarding the definitions and implications of intensity, energy transfer, and the effects of medium properties.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the original question's clarity, as well as the dependence on definitions of intensity and energy transfer. Participants acknowledge the complexity of interpreting such questions in a conceptual context.

  • #31
FerPhys said:
still haven't heard a compelling answer to my question. Anyone?
The professor was right.

I am not sure what you would find compelling, but your reasoning is fundamentally flawed. You based your claim on an equation with many variables, but considered only the effect of one variable. What about all of the others? You cannot use that equation to claim an increase in intensity if you don't know how all of the variables change.

The professors explanation was correct and simple.
 
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  • #32
FerPhys said:
still haven't heard a compelling answer to my question. Anyone?
You have but you just don't seem to have accepted / understood it. Read it all again in the frame of mind that we (and your Professor) could actually be right. :smile:
 
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