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The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving the calculation of the mass of methane required to warm a specific mass of water by a given temperature increase. Participants explore the concepts of heat transfer, specific heat capacity, and stoichiometry in the context of a combustion reaction.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the energy required to heat 675 g of water by 25.0 °C, arriving at 70,605 Joules.
  • Another participant clarifies that the heat capacity of water is 1.00 cal/(gram-degree centigrade) and suggests using this to compute the heat needed.
  • There is a discussion about the heat of combustion per mole of methane, with a participant noting that 1 mole of CH4 produces 890.3 kJ.
  • Some participants express confusion about the use of different units for specific heat capacity, questioning why 1.00 cal/(gram-degree centigrade) is used instead of 4.184 J/g°C.
  • A participant corrects their earlier statement about the energy required, confirming it should be 70,605 Joules (or 70.605 kJ).

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the calculations related to the heat required for the water and the conversion between units, but there is some confusion regarding the specific heat capacity values and their application in the problem.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the correct application of specific heat values and the conversion between Joules and calories, which may affect their calculations.

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Homework Statement


What mass of methane must be combusted with excess oxygen to generate enough heat to warm 675 g of water by 25.0 C? (assume no heat lost to surroundings)

Homework Equations


Specific heat of H20= 4.184 J/g*C
q = mCT
balanced equation: CH4 + 2O2 -> CO2 + 2H2O

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm kinda stuck here. Here's what i found...

from stoic, found that 675g H20 is 37.5 mols of H20 and that its 18.75 mols of CH4

I also figured out that the energy the water absorbs from the reaction is 70605 Joules from m*C*T

every reaction of 18.75 mols of CH4 creates 16693.125 KJ but we need 70605 Joules. Thus, 70605 Joules - 16693.125 KJ = 53911.875 J needed ? I kinda paused here though cause I am not sure if it's right!
 
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You are warming 675 g of water (in a pot) with a temperature increase ## \Delta T=25^o \, C ##. You don't need to create 675 g of water. (The water is present in the pot before the reaction). You should know the heat capacity of water is 1.00 cal/(gram-degree centigrade). This allows you to compute the ## \Delta Q ## that you need. What is ## \Delta H ## per mole for this methane reaction? Then you can compute the number of moles of methane you need.
 
Charles Link said:
You are warming 675 g of water (in a pot) with a temperature increase ## \Delta T=25^o \, C ##. You don't need to create 675 g of water. (The water is present in the pot before the reaction). You should know the heat capacity of water is 1.00 cal/(gram-degree centigrade). This allows you to compute the ## \Delta Q ## that you need. What is ## \Delta H ## per mole for this methane reaction? Then you can compute the number of moles of methane you need.
Is it right to say that the Q of water (m*C*T) is the heat we need to be generated by the combustion?
 
Yes .## Q=mC \, \Delta T ## and ## C=1.00 cal/(gram-degree Centigrade) ##.
 
Charles Link said:
Yes .## \Delta Q=mC \Delta T ## and ## C=1.00 cal/(gram-degree Centigrade) ##.
How come we use C = 1.00 instead of 4.184?
 
Lori said:
How come we use C = 1.00 instead of 4.184?
Oh ! 4.184 J = 1 cal

Ok.. so i found that Q for water is 70.605 Joules and that 1mole CH4/890.3 KJ, using dimensional analysis, i will need 0.079 moles of CH4 which is 1.27 g CH4 needed
 
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Lori said:
Oh ! 4.184 J = 1 cal

Ok.. so i found that Q for water is 70.605 Joules and that 1mole CH4/890.3 KJ, using dimensional analysis, i will need 0.079 moles of CH4 which is 1.27 g CH4 needed
Editing... (you added something)... I think Q should be 70,605 Joules. (or 70.605 kJ). Otherwise, what you have looks correct. :)
 
Charles Link said:
Editing... (you added something)... I think Q should be 70,605 Joules. (or 70.605 kJ). Otherwise, what you have looks correct. :)
oops! you're right. I meant kilojoules :p
 
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