Mastering Archery Adjustments: Solving for B with Known Variables A, C, and D

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The discussion revolves around solving a transcendental equation to adjust archery aim for varying elevations. The equation presented is tan(A) = tan(B) - (9.8*cos(A)*C)/(2*(cos(B)*D)^2), and the goal is to express B as a function of known variables A, C, and D. Two potential solutions for B are provided, involving arcsine functions, and the importance of selecting the correct root based on context is emphasized. Additionally, an alternative approach using the goal-seek function in a spreadsheet is suggested for finding B when C is known. The conversation highlights the complexity of the problem and confirms that it can be transformed into a solvable quadratic equation in terms of cos(B).
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Hi,

It seems I've forgotten more of my algebra than I thought. I am putting together a spreadsheet to help a few archers determine how to change their point of aim for up- and downhill shots. I would like to reduce/rearrange the following expression so that A and B are not found on the same side of the equality, but after 30 minutes can't seem to do it. Ideally, I would like B to be a function of A,C, and D which are known in this setting. Any help is appreciated, even more so if the steps are sketched. -Seth

tan (A) = tan (B) - (9.8*cos(A)*C)/(2*(cos(B)*D)2)
 
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I couldn't solve for B, I could get it to the form

f(B) = C / g(B)

but not any simpler.
 
wvguy8258 said:
Hi,

It seems I've forgotten more of my algebra than I thought. I am putting together a spreadsheet to help a few archers determine how to change their point of aim for up- and downhill shots. I would like to reduce/rearrange the following expression so that A and B are not found on the same side of the equality, but after 30 minutes can't seem to do it. Ideally, I would like B to be a function of A,C, and D which are known in this setting. Any help is appreciated, even more so if the steps are sketched. -Seth

tan (A) = tan (B) - (9.8*cos(A)*C)/(2*(cos(B)*D)2)

Surprisingly this is a transcendental equation that appears to be solvable, (as long as D/cos(A) is not zero).

The solutions are:

B = (1/2)*(asin(9.8*C*(cos(A))^2/D^2+sin(A))+A)

and

B = (1/2)*(-asin(9.8*C*(cos(A))^2/D^2+sin(A))+A-pi())

You will have to determine which root makes sense in your context.

If that fails use:

C = (tan(B)-tan(A))*2*(cos(B)*D)^2/(9.8*cos(A))

and use the goalseek function of your spreadsheet to find the value of B that gives you the known value of C.
 
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If you want a go at it yourself, try isolating cos B, while remembering that tan B = sin B / cos B = +-root(1-cos ^2B)/cos B. The sign depends on B, but you will have to take care of that yourself. This will probably end up in a quadratic in cos ^2B, which you can then solve for and after that isolate B. Depending on the domain of B, you might have to consider several cases.
 
Thanks everyone. I feel a little better now that I see solving for B was not extremely trivial. This will be very helpful.
 
Jarle said:
If you want a go at it yourself, try isolating cos B, while remembering that tan B = sin B / cos B = +-root(1-cos ^2B)/cos B. The sign depends on B, but you will have to take care of that yourself. This will probably end up in a quadratic in cos ^2B, which you can then solve for and after that isolate B. Depending on the domain of B, you might have to consider several cases.
I can confirm that the equation does end up as a quadratic in (cos(B))^2. Nice key observation that tan B can be turned into cos B form, that makes the equation solvable!

BTW wvguy, does the equation appear to work all right?
 
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Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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