Studying Maths and Physics at Trinity College Dublin

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of pursuing a PhD in physics after completing a mathematics degree at Trinity College Dublin, particularly when the student intends to take various physics modules. The conversation touches on the implications of the degree title on employment and further academic opportunities.

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  • One participant expresses concern about being restricted to math-based employment despite taking physics modules.
  • Another participant suggests that no degree is inherently limiting for employment if qualifications are demonstrated.
  • There is a discussion about the requirements for pursuing a PhD in physics with a math degree, indicating that additional classes may be necessary depending on the program.
  • A participant mentions the inability to formally take extra physics classes due to university restrictions, raising questions about the adequacy of self-study using a specific textbook.
  • Some participants question the value of the physics modules if formal assessment is not possible, and seek clarification on the implications of this situation.
  • One participant lists the physics modules available to them as part of their degree and inquires whether these would suffice for PhD applications in physics.
  • A later reply suggests that with the listed modules and strong letters of recommendation, pursuing a PhD may be possible, but advises checking with specific programs.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of a mathematics degree for pursuing physics further. While some suggest that it is feasible to transition into physics, others highlight potential barriers related to formal education and program requirements. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact requirements for PhD applications.

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Participants note limitations regarding formal assessment in physics modules and the potential need for additional physics education, but do not resolve these issues or clarify specific program requirements.

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I'm currently in my first undergrad year studying mathematics at Trinity College Dublin.

I do not want to specialise in pure math, so I am considering taking all the physics modules I can, which include Classical Mechanics, Quantum Mechanics, General Relativity, Classical Field Theory, Electrodynamics and Statistical Physics.

Despite taking all the physics modules, will I still be restricted to entirely math based employment, as the course title suggests, or can I eventually study for a phD in physics if I decide I want to?
 
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No degree is restricting with regard to employment if you demonstrate you're qualified for the position.

As far as studying physics/obtaining a PhD in physics with a math degree- requirements will depend on the program you go into, but it's most likely going to be a matter of taking a few extra classes to round out your physics education.
 
fss said:
No degree is restricting with regard to employment if you demonstrate you're qualified for the position.

As far as studying physics/obtaining a PhD in physics with a math degree- requirements will depend on the program you go into, but it's most likely going to be a matter of taking a few extra classes to round out your physics education.

Well I can't formally take any extra physics classes. The university won't allow me to take the final exams, and even if I did, I could only get a maximum of 60%, as 30% go for labs and 10% go for tutorials.

I do however, have the book University Physics by Young and Freedman, and I've been studying this myself. Would this be adequate?
 
Maybe_Memorie said:
I do however, have the book University Physics by Young and Freedman, and I've been studying this myself. Would this be adequate?

Almost certainly not.
 
Then what can I do?

I can provide a list of all possible modules
 
Maybe_Memorie said:
Then what can I do?

I can provide a list of all possible modules

It's abit confusing here...what do you mean by you cannot take the class formally? And if that is the case, what good would those all possible modules be if you can't take them?
 
yenchin said:
It's abit confusing here...what do you mean by you cannot take the class formally? And if that is the case, what good would those all possible modules be if you can't take them?

When I say I can't formally take classes, I mean I can go to lectures, but I can't take exams in them and have them counted, if any extra physics modules are required, as fss said. This has nothing to do with the modules listed below.

Right, the physics modules I can take as part of my degree are:
Classical Mechanics (Newtonian)
Advanced Classical Mechanics (Lagrange, Hamiltonian etc)
Equations of Mathematical Physics
Classical Field Theory
Quantum Field Theory
Quantum Mechanics
Statistical Physics
Classical Electrodynamics
General Relativity

Along with these there are a large number of supporting math modules, Differential Geometery, etc..


What I'm asking is, after taking these modules, would I be able to pursue a Ph.D in Physics, despite my course being titled "Mathematics", or would I need extra physics education?
 
I think with those modules and some great letters of recommendations it would be possible (although you may want to check with the particular schools/programs).
 

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