SU(2) Rotation Representation: Why ω/2?

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The discussion centers around the representation of rotations in SU(2) and the reasoning behind the use of ω/2 in the rotation formula. Participants explore the mathematical implications and geometrical interpretations of this representation, with references to quaternions and spinorial double coverings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that any rotation about n(θ, φ) in SU(2) can be represented as u(n, ω) = I cos[ω/2] - i(σ.n)sin[ω/2] and questions why the factor is ω/2 instead of ω.
  • Another participant explains that a unit quaternion Q rotates a 3-vector and suggests that working through the math will clarify the necessity of the 1/2 factor.
  • A different participant introduces the concept of spinorial double-covering and uses the Moebius strip as a visual analogy to explain the relationship between SU(2) and its representations.
  • One participant asks if the Moebius strip is relevant to the SU(2) group.
  • Another participant reinforces the connection between SU(2) and SO(3), mentioning the covering relationship and referencing a specific text on spinors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of the ω/2 factor and its implications, with some providing mathematical reasoning while others focus on geometric interpretations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitive explanation for the factor.

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Participants reference mathematical constructs such as quaternions and spinorial representations, but there are no explicit resolutions to the assumptions or definitions involved in the discussion.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying quantum mechanics, group theory, or mathematical physics, particularly in relation to rotation groups and their representations.

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Any rotation about n(θ, φ) in SU(2) can be represent as
u(n, ω) = I cos[ω/2] - i(σ.n)sin[ω/2],where I is the unit matrix and i is the complex number.Right?

But can someone tell me why ω/2 rather than ω?

Waiting for your response.Thank you.
 
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A unit quaternion [itex]Q[/itex] rotates or transforms a 3-vector [itex]\vec x[/itex] via

[tex]\bmatrix 0 \\ \vec x'\endbmatrix =<br /> <br /> Q \bmatrix 0 \\ \vec x\endbmatrix Q^*[/tex]

where I have used [tex]\bmatrix 0 \\ \vec x\endbmatrix[/tex] to denote the pure quaternion (think pure imaginary) constructed from the 3-vector [itex]\vec x[/itex].

If you work through the math you will see why the factor of 1/2 is needed.

Note well: Swapping the quaternion and its conjugate also lead to a rotation or transformation. Both forms are in use.
 
Spinorial double-covering

unica said:
But can someone tell me why ω/2 rather than ω?

Spinorial representations involve double coverings. Can you visualize a Moebius strip as a rectangle wrapped up with a twist so that it now has a single circular edge which is twice as long as the central circle in the band? Draw the vertical projections to see that two points on the edge correspond to each point at the center.

This is easier to discuss with pictures!
 
Another easy question:Does the Moebius strip pertain to the SU(2) group??
 
That's what I just said! Consider the covering by SU(2) of SO(3). This is a higher dimensional analog of the covering of the circle by the circle which is given by the Moebius band (with a circular edge). See for example the chapter on spinors in MTW, Gravitation.
 

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