stevendaryl said:
In the language of set theory, ##\forall x \Phi(x)## is the primitive operation. Roughly speaking, it means for any set x, ##\Phi(x)## holds. Restricted quantification is a defined concept: ##\forall x \in A ~ \Phi(x)## is considered shorthand for ##\forall x (x \in A \Rightarrow \Phi(x))##.
Regarding this, there is one related point/question that I had in mind for some time (relation to translation of "ordinary mathematical statements" to "sets only").
Very briefly it goes like this:
Suppose we want to re-convert a statement of form:
##\forall x \in \mathbb{R} \, [\, P(x) ]##
to sets only. I think we would go like:
##\forall x [ x \in \mathbb{R} \rightarrow P(x) ]##
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It seems that such translations (like above) would be good when we are dealing with "collections" which are sets. However, it seems, I think, that in general math one has to deal with "collections" which are not sets
[collections too big to be sets
]. So consider such a collection ##G##. We might write:
##\forall x \in G \, [ \, P(x) ]##
But since the "collection" of objects ##G## is not a set, the primitive translation can't be like the above case for ##\mathbb{R}##. Here is how I "think" we might proceed. Make a formula like ##Q(x)##
[one free variable
] such that ##Q(a)## is true iff the set ##a## is in collection ##G##.
Then write:
##\forall x [x \in G \rightarrow P(x) ]##
##\forall x [ Q(x) \rightarrow P(x) ]##
(The ##x \in G## above is meant to be informal)
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It feels reasonable to some extent. However, is there something else here that one needs to keep in mind? Or perhaps other typical examples or issues that occur in re-translation?