Subspace topology of Rationals on Reals

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The discussion centers on the subspace topology of the rationals (ℚ) as a subset of the reals (ℝ) with the standard topology. It is established that open sets in the subspace topology of ℚ are formed by intersecting open sets from ℝ, specifically open intervals (a,b), with ℚ. The participants clarify that while singleton sets can exist in ℚ, open singleton sets cannot exist in this topology. Additionally, it is confirmed that the basis for the subspace topology on ℚ can be derived from the basis of open sets in ℝ.

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I am trying to visualize the subsppace topology that is generated when you take the Rationals as a subset of the Reals.


So if we have ℝ with the standard topology, open sets in a subspace topology induced by Q would be the intersection of every open set O in ℝ with Q. Since each open set in ℝ is an open interval (a,b), and because between any two reals there are an infinite number of both rationals and irrationals, I'm picturing open sets in the subspace topology as infinite sets of rational numbers. What I mean is, you wouldn't ever have a singleton set. You'd have say, the infinite number of rationals included in any interval (a,b). Am I right in this thought?
 
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dumbQuestion said:
Since each open set in ℝ is an open interval (a,b)

I would be careful with this. The open sets of \mathbb R are more than just the open intervals. The open intervals do form a basis for \mathbb R though.

dumbQuestion said:
What I mean is, you wouldn't ever have a singleton set. You'd have say, the infinite number of rationals included in any interval (a,b). Am I right in this thought?

You can have a singleton set in \mathbb Q, but what I think you mean is that you can never have an open singleton set, which is correct. Furthemore, note that if \mathcal B is a bases for \mathbb R then \left\{ U \cap \mathbb Q: U \in \mathcal B \right\} is a basis for \mathbb Q in the subspace topology.
 

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