Subtract Vectors A & B: Calculate Components & Magnitude

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The discussion revolves around vector subtraction, specifically calculating the components and magnitude of vector C, defined as C = B - A, where vectors A and B have specified lengths and angles from the x-axis.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss how to decompose vectors into their x and y components using trigonometric functions. There is also an exploration of the relationship between vector addition and subtraction, with some participants questioning their understanding of vector addition.

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Some participants have made progress in calculating the components of the vectors and have shared their findings. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of trigonometric functions to find components and the application of the Pythagorean theorem for magnitude. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is a sense of collaborative support among participants.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their foundational knowledge of vector addition and trigonometry, which affects their confidence in solving the problem. There is also a mention of needing to sketch a coordinate system to visualize the vectors.

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I am completely lost. Here is a similar equation, I changed the lengths and angles.

Vector A is 3.0 meters long, and is 45 degrees from the x axis.
Vector B is 6.0 meters long, and is 130 degrees from the x axis.

What are the x and y components of the vector C=B-A?
What is the magnitude of C?
 
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First, draw a picture. Include a coordinate system and your vectors. Use trig (sine/cosine) to decompose your vectors into their x and y components.

C=B-A is a vector equation, so Cx=Bx-Ax and Cy=By-Ay
 
I'm assuming you know how to add vectors, but if not, replay back.

Subtracting vectors is the same thing as adding vectors, but in the opposite direction.

So, in your example, subtracting A would be the same thing as adding 3.0 meters 225 degrees from the x-axis.
 
I don't know how to add vectors at all. I know I have to use cos and sin but my knowledge ends there.
 
swimchica93 said:
I don't know how to add vectors at all. I know I have to use cos and sin but my knowledge ends there.

Just focus on vector A right now, sketch a coordinate system and draw in the vector with the angle you described. Sin(the angle)=what? Cos (the angle)=what? You can use the sine and cosine function to get the x and y components of A.

Vectors are nothing but triangles, don't worry about them.
 
Thank you so much for your help. What about the lengths? So far for that problem, I have:

cos (45)= .707
sin (45)= .707
cos (130)= -0.643
sin (130) = 0.766

I just don't have any clue what to do with those numbers.
 
swimchica93 said:
Thank you so much for your help. What about the lengths? So far for that problem, I have:
cos (45)= .707
sin (45)= .707
cos (130)= -0.643
sin (130) = 0.766

So what you have calculated is the ratio of the length (magnitude) of your vectors to their x and y components. For vector A you have sin(45 deg)=Ay/A so that Ay=A*sin(45 deg)=3*sin(45deg)=0.707*sin(45 deg). For the x component Ax=A*cos(45 deg).

Now you have the x and y components of your A vector, what are the x and y components of your B vector?
 
I got:

Ax= 2.121
Ay= 2.121
Bx= -3.858
By= 4.596

Thank you so much for your help! How do I subtract them? :)
 
I think I may have figured it out.

Cx= -5.979
Cy= 2.475

and the Magnitude= 6.471

Thank you sooo much! I am so appreciative! :D You are my savior!
 
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You're doing great. Remember your original equation for C? C=B-A which was a vector equation which really means it is two equations in one. Cx=Bx-Ax so Cx=-3.858-2.121 and similarly for Cy. Now remember the problem originally asked for the magnitude of the vector C but since Cx and Cy are perpendicular to each other you can use the Pythagorean theorem to find the total length of C. And that should do it.

I know this vector stuff must seem sort of weird and abstract now but I think once you apply it to some real problems it will make a little more sense and eventually be more intuitive.
 
  • #11
Thank you so much! I did sqrt(cx^2+cy^2)=C. Is that right? For magnitude, that is.
 
  • #12
swimchica93 said:
Thank you so much! I did sqrt(cx^2+cy^2)=C. Is that right? For magnitude, that is.

Perfect :)
 
  • #13
Thank you so much! :d
 

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