Sudmarine sonar/distance problem

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The discussion centers on a submarine sonar problem involving a submarine and a battleship. The submarine emits a sonar ping that takes 9 seconds to echo back, indicating the battleship's position. The sound travels at 1533 m/s in salt water at 20 degrees Celsius. The calculations reveal that the submarine will take approximately 1226.4 seconds to reach the battleship, which is also traveling at 10 m/s, leading to confusion regarding the battleship's speed due to both vessels moving towards each other.

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Homework Statement


A submarine pings its sonar and 9 seconds later hears an echo, the signature of which indicates a battleship. Ten seconds later, the ping takes 8 seconds to echo back. The submarine is traveling at 10 m/s towards the battleship. The battleship is directly in front of the submarine, traveling at the same bearing, at an unknown speed. The salt water is at a temp of 20 degrees C. How long until the sub is directly below the battleship, assuming no change in course or speed in either vessel? What is the speed of the battleship?

Homework Equations


Sound travels in the salt water at 1533 m/s at 20 degrees C.
V= d/t
I am sure there are more but that is what i used

The Attempt at a Solution


1.) v=d/t
1533 = d/8
d = 1533 * 8
d = 12264 m

2.)
v = d/t

10 m/s = 12264 m/t
t = 12264 / 10
t = 1226.4 seconds time for the sub to reach the battleship

3.) v=d/t
v = 12,264 m / 1226.4 s

v= 10 m/s for the battleship speed which this is where i am getting hung up on i don't believe this is right cause it has the same velocity as the sub. Any help would be appreciated thank you.
 
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Keep in mind that both ships are in motion during the time the ping emits to when it is detected.

Hence the distance the ping travels is the distance between the 2 plus the distance the battleship moved until pinged and then the distance covered back to the sub by the echo is diminished by the distance the sub has traveled until reception.
 

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