Sugar content of ripening fruit

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the changes in sugar content as fruit, specifically plantains, ripens. Participants explore the biochemical processes involved in the ripening of fruit, including the conversion of complex carbohydrates to simpler sugars and the role of photosynthesis.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant observes that plantains become sweeter as they ripen, questioning whether complex carbohydrates are converted to simple sugars during this process.
  • Another participant mentions the Calvin Cycle in relation to glucose production, expressing uncertainty about fructose.
  • A subsequent post questions whether photosynthesis is necessary for fruit ripening, particularly in the absence of light.
  • A participant clarifies that the Calvin Cycle is the light-independent part of photosynthesis.
  • Another participant argues that photosynthesis is not directly involved in the sweetness that develops during ripening, suggesting that gluconeogenesis and the breakdown of complex carbohydrates contribute to increased sweetness.
  • This participant cites a source that discusses the biochemical changes during ripening, including increased gluconeogenesis, hydrolysis of polysaccharides, and changes in acidity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of photosynthesis in fruit ripening, with some suggesting it is not involved while others reference its processes. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact mechanisms contributing to the sweetness of ripening fruit.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the biochemical processes involved in ripening and the definitions of terms like gluconeogenesis and photosynthesis. The relationship between light and ripening is also not fully explored.

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I noticed my plantains get sweeter as they get more ripe. When they're green, they're not sweet at all. When they're black, they're pretty sweet. So what's happening? Are some molecules being converted to sugar? Like, for example, complex carbs being converted to simple carbs? If so, does that mean if I eat a green plantain, I'm not ingesting nearly as much sugar as I am if I eat a black plantain?
 
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So what's happening?

Photosynthesis: The Calvin Cycle (for glucose at least). Not sure about fructose...
 
Pythagorean said:
Photosynthesis: The Calvin Cycle (for glucose at least). Not sure about fructose...

Doesn't photosynthesis require light? Will fruit not ripen in the dark?
 
Photosynthesis (neither the light-dependent nor -independent) reactions are involved in the sweet flavor that develops as fruits ripen. In fact the photosynthetic material disassembles as fruits ripen (which accounts for the disapearance of their green color). Instead, the sweetness is due to gluconeogenesis (the production of glucose from proteins and amino acids) and the breakdown of complex carbohydrates into simple sugars. For more information see Prasanna et al. 2007. Fruit Ripening Phenomena–An Overview. Critical Review in Food Science and Nutrition 47:1. doi:10.1080/10408390600976841. Here's a relevant exceprt from the article:

The taste development is due to a general increase in sweetness, which is the result of increased gluconeogenesis, hydrolysis of polysaccharides, especially starch, decreased acidity, and accumulation of sugars and organic acids resulting in an excellent sugar/acid blend.
 
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