Sugestions to solve this equation

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The discussion revolves around finding solutions to the differential equation y'' + (b'/b) y' - (a^2/b^2)y = 0, where a is a constant and b is a function. The conversation includes various methods and transformations to approach the problem, focusing on theoretical and mathematical reasoning.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using standard methods for homogeneous linear equations, assuming b is a constant.
  • Another participant clarifies that b is a function, which affects the equation's structure.
  • A method is proposed to obtain solutions by setting b(x) = Ax^n, although this does not yield a general solution.
  • A transformation to standard form is suggested, leading to a general solution involving sine and cosine functions, contingent on the validity of the assumptions regarding a and b.
  • Concerns are raised about potential unbalanced terms in the original equation when substituting the proposed solution.
  • A later reply introduces a solution derived from Maple, involving hyperbolic sine and cosine functions, suggesting a substitution that simplifies the problem.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of b and the validity of proposed solutions. There is no consensus on a single method or solution approach, and multiple competing views remain throughout the discussion.

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Participants note that the transformations and methods discussed depend on the specific forms of a and b, and some steps may not be universally valid.

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Any sugestions on how to find the solutions to this equation?[itex]y'' +\frac{b'}{b} y' - \frac{a^2}{b^2}y=0[/itex]

where [itex]a[/itex] is a constant
 
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I assume that b is a constant as well. That's a pretty standard homogeneous linear equation; just use the standard methods (can you write out its characteristic equation?).
 
No, [itex]b[/itex] is a function, if it were a constant its derivative would be zero and the term with [itex]y'[/itex] would disappear
 
You can obtain a lot of solutions by setting b(x) = Axn and solving for y. That won't give you a general solution though.
 
rewrite

[itex]by''+b'y'-\frac{a^2}{b}y=0[/itex]

to the standard form:

[itex]z''=-c^2(t)z[/itex],

with

[itex]c(t)=-\frac{2a + b'(t)}{2b}[/itex]

the general solution of the transformed equation is then

[itex]z=Asin(cx)+Bcos(cx)[/itex]

Then get the solution of y by transforming back:
[itex]y=z e^{\int{\frac{b'}{2b}dx}} = z\frac{b'}{2b}[/itex]

[itex]y=(A\sin(cx)+B\cos(cx))\frac{b'}{2b}[/itex]

That's of course, assuming a,b are such that all steps are valid
 
bigfooted said:
[itex]y=(A\sin(cx)+B\cos(cx))\frac{b'}{2b}[/itex]
Looks to me that if you substitute that in the original equation there'll be an unbalanced b''' term.
 
Oops, you're right, I was thinking too simple! The transformation to standard form does not lead to an expression that can be easily solved by a ricatti equation.

Actually, maple gave the following:

[itex]y=A\sinh(\int -\frac{a}{b(x)}dx) + B\cosh(\int -\frac{a}{b(x)}dx)[/itex]

hope this helps a bit...
 
That suggests the substitution

[itex]t =∫(a/b(x)) dx[/itex]

which works wonders :).
 

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