SULI Vs. DOD Contractor Internship Advice

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The discussion centers on choosing between a SULI internship at Argonne National Labs and a DOD contractor internship with Dynetics for a software engineering role. Participants emphasize that the SULI program offers greater exposure to new tools and ideas, which is beneficial for students aiming for careers in digital signal processing and chip design. Personal experiences shared indicate that mentorship quality and project relevance significantly influence the internship experience. Overall, the SULI internship is recommended for those seeking a research-oriented environment.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of software engineering principles
  • Familiarity with digital signal processing concepts
  • Knowledge of chip design technologies, such as those from Altera
  • Awareness of internship structures and expectations in research environments
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the SULI program at Argonne National Labs for detailed insights
  • Explore internship opportunities at DOD contractors like Dynetics
  • Learn about digital signal processing tools and techniques
  • Investigate mentorship dynamics in research internships
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Students in electrical engineering or physics, aspiring software engineers, and anyone considering internships in research or defense sectors.

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Hi all

I have recently been approached for two offers for this summer. One is a SULI internship at Argonne Nat'l Labs in the software engineering field, and the other is with a DOD contractor (Dynetics) for similar work (i.e. low-level software development). I am currently a sophomore in college double majoring in electrical engineering and physics, with a minor in mathematics. My questions for anyone who has an opinion:

1) I eventually want to go into the field of digital signal processing / chip design (Altera, etc.). With that in mind, and ignoring financial constraints, which internship should I pursue?

2) Has anyone on this forum participated in the SULI at Argonne? If so, I'd like to hear about your opinions about your time there.

Thanks for your help
-pYr0
 
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I was a mentor to a student in the SULI program at Argonne, so probably not the type of experience you are seeking for. Still, I at least know of the program and the place.

Zz.
 


Well, I'll take any opinions on the program that I can get!

Did the student you mentored have an overall positive experience? If you were in my shoes, would you chose the SULI program?

-pYr0
 


pYr0rAGE said:
Well, I'll take any opinions on the program that I can get!

Did the student you mentored have an overall positive experience?

He definitely did! I also wrote his letter of recommendation when he applied to grad schools, and he is now doing his PhD at MIT.

Too bad he decided to work on "gravitational waves"!

:)

If you were in my shoes, would you chose the SULI program?

-pYr0

If I were in your shoes, I would do ANY kind of research internship that I could get.

Zz.
 
I regularly mentor SULI students at my institution (not Argonne). It can be a great experience for the students but it depends a lot on your mentor and the project. The experience of students varies a lot.

In my experience talking with many people who have worked at National Labs vs Defense Contractors, generally what I hear is that the level of exposure to new tools and ideas is better at National Labs. So much stuff is protected and compartmentalized at a Defense Contractor it will be hard to see the big picture.

This depends entirely on the specific opportunities you have of course. But that is my second-hand experience.
 

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