Sum of combinations from k to n

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding a formula for the sum of combinations, specifically focusing on summing from an arbitrary value of k to n. Participants explore various approaches and mathematical tools to address this problem, which has implications for large n where direct computation is impractical.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a formula for the sum of combinations from 0 to n, suggesting that \(\sum_{k=0}^n \binom{n}{k} = 2^n\), but questions how to adapt this for arbitrary starting values of k, such as 4.
  • Another participant expresses uncertainty about the existence of a "nice" formula for \(\sum_{k=0}^m \binom{n}{k}\) and suggests that providing a specific example might help others find a computational method.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the idea of expressing the sum in terms of the incomplete beta function, linking it to the cumulative distribution function (cdf) of the binomial distribution with p=1/2.
  • One participant mentions that for large n, the binomial distribution can be approximated by a normal distribution, suggesting that this could be a viable approach for obtaining close approximations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a specific formula for the sum of combinations from an arbitrary k. Multiple competing views and approaches are presented, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in finding a straightforward formula, with participants noting the dependence on definitions and the potential need for computational methods. There is also an acknowledgment of the approximation methods for large n, but no definitive resolution is provided.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring combinatorial mathematics, probability theory, or anyone looking for methods to compute sums of combinations, particularly in the context of large values of n.

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I have been trying to figure out a formula for the sum of combinations. For example:

[itex]\sum[/itex]nk=0([itex]\frac{n}{k}[/itex]) = 2n

But what if you want to sum from any arbitrary k, like 4? I've tried looking at Pascal's triangle for nice values of n and k, but haven't been able to see a pattern. I would really appreciate any help with this. I want to apply this to combinations for large n, which are impractical to compute.

Thank you in advance.
 
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I don't know any nice formula for [itex]\sum_{k=0}^m \binom{n}{k}[/itex] Your question made me curious and I searched the web. It apparently doesn't know a nice formula either. Perhaps if you give an example of the kind of computation you are trying to do, someone will see a way to compute the result - at least compute it on a computer.
 
The sum could be expressed in terms of the incomplete beta function, e.g. using the cdf of the binomial distribution with p=1/2.
 
For large n the binomial distribution is approximated by a normal distribution, so if you only want a close approximation you could use that.
 

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