Sum of Two Squares: Can $5^{64}-3^{64}$ Be Written?

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The discussion revolves around whether the expression $5^{64}-3^{64}$ can be represented as the sum of two squares. This involves exploring mathematical identities and properties related to sums of squares.

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  • Some participants inquire about the possibility of expressing $5^{64}-3^{64}$ as a sum of two squares.
  • One participant references the identity $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2) = (ac+bd)^2 + (ad-bc)^2$, suggesting that products of sums of two squares can yield another sum of two squares.
  • Another participant acknowledges familiarity with the identity mentioned.
  • Expressions of gratitude are noted, indicating appreciation for contributions from other participants.

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The discussion does not reach a consensus on whether $5^{64}-3^{64}$ can be expressed as the sum of two squares, and multiple viewpoints remain regarding the approach to the problem.

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Limitations include the lack of specific mathematical steps or proofs to support the claims made about the expression and its relation to sums of squares.

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Is it possible to write $5^{64}-3^{64}$ as the sum of two squares?
 
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anemone said:
Is it possible to write $5^{64}-3^{64}$ as the sum of two squares?

$5^{64}-3^{64}$
=$(5^{32}+3^{32})(5^{16}+3^{16})(5^8+3^8)(5^4+3^4)(5^2+3^2)(5+3)(5-3)$
= $16((5^{32}+3^{32})(5^{16}+3^{16})(5^8+3^8)(5^4+3^4)(5^2+3^2)$
= $4^2((5^{32}+3^{32})(5^{16}+3^{16})(5^8+3^8)(5^4+3^4)(5^2+3^2)$

as product of 2 numbers both sum of 2 squares can be represented as sum of 2 squares and 4^2 is a square so argument repeatedly we have the ans Yes
 
I'm not familiar with this theorem. Are you saying that any form [math](a^{2p} + b^{2p})(c^{2q} + d^{2q} )(e^{2r} + f^{2r})[/math] can always be written as the sum of two squares? Or do we additionally need c = e =a, d = f = b or something?
-Dan
 
topsquark said:
I'm not familiar with this theorem. Are you saying that any form [math](a^{2p} + b^{2p})(c^{2q} + d^{2q} )(e^{2r} + f^{2r})[/math] can always be written as the sum of two squares? Or do we additionally need c = e =a, d = f = b or something?
-Dan
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The identity $(a^2+b^2)(c^2+d^2) = (ac+bd)^2 + (ad-bc)^2$ shows that a product of sums of two squares is also a sum of two squares.
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(Doh) I knew that one.

Thanks!

-Dan
 
Thanks Kali for your solution!

And thanks to Opalg too for explaining thing for topsquark! I appreciate that!
 

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