Summation problem (first N positive integers)

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The discussion revolves around the summation of the first N positive integers, specifically focusing on the formula for this sum and the steps involved in deriving it. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning behind the formula and its application.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the reduction of the formula for the sum of the first N positive integers, expressing a desire for a step-by-step explanation. Some participants question the upper bound of the summation, suggesting that clarification is needed regarding whether it should be "i" or "n".

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on the interpretation of the summation bounds and encouraging the original poster to clarify their understanding. There is no explicit consensus yet, as multiple interpretations are being explored.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



so i kno the formula for the for the sum of the first N positive integers

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when i = 1

The Attempt at a Solution



i kno the answer = n^2(n+1)/2

but could someone explain step by step how you reduce it to get the final answer? as if I'm in kindergarten? I'm slow, thanks.

my work:

following the formula: n(n+1)/2 * n(n+1)/2 * n(n+1)/2 ?

i don't understand how to reduce the terms to get the final answer provided
 
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GeorgeCostanz said:

Homework Statement



LNE5ZhT.png



Homework Equations



so i kno the formula for the for the sum of the first N positive integers

MZOJig4.png


when i = 1


The Attempt at a Solution



i kno the answer = n^2(n+1)/2

but could someone explain step by step how you reduce it to get the final answer? as if I'm in kindergarten? I'm slow, thanks.


PF rules require you to show us your work.
 
oh okay sure
 
Are you sure the upper bound on the second summation is "i" and not "n"? Note that this is a summation of the value "1", not the variable "i".
 
rcgldr said:
Are you sure the upper bound on the second summation is "i" and not "n"? Note that this is a summation of the value "1", not the variable "i".

If the upper bound on the second summation were "n" then the sum would be n^3. You are only going to get the correct answer if the upper bound is "i". Start with the innermost sum and work your way out. It's not hard.
 

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