Super elastic collision between two objects

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The problem involves a super elastic collision between two objects, where a mass m1 is propelled by a spring and collides with another mass m2. The goal is to determine the distance of spring compression required for m2 to reach a specific point after the collision.

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy in elastic collisions. Questions are raised about the necessary speed of m2 to reach point C and how the spring's force affects m1's speed. There are suggestions to apply kinematic equations and consider the spring's acceleration.

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The discussion includes various hints and questions aimed at guiding the original poster towards the necessary calculations. Some participants have reiterated similar points, indicating a collaborative effort to explore the problem without providing direct solutions.

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There is an emphasis on the relationship between the speeds of m1 and m2, as well as the effects of the spring's force on the motion of m1. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations and seeks clarification on their approach.

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Hello,
I have difficulties with this problem:

The body mass m1 = 20 g is fired with a spring, k = 72 N / m from position A. On arrival at point B hits completely elastic body mass m2 = 15 g.

Find the distance x of compressed spring so that the mass m2 reaches point C separated a distance d = 90 cm from point O. Data: h = 25 cm.

I was trying to do the calculations and camera up with these:
Since momentum P and cinetic energy are constant therefore m1*v0=m1v1+m2v2 and 1/2m1v0=1/2m1v1 +1/2m2v2
To find the v2 of the object m2 I apply conservation of energy law and it sums up to 1/2m2v2 = m2gh

After making calculations I get stuck and I think I'm missing something.
Please give an advice with this.
Thanks
 

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Ask yourself: How fast must m2 have been going to land at point C?
 
Here are some useful things which I will leave for you to find (if you get stuck, ill show you how).

1. How fast does m2 have to go? (Kinematics)
2. If m2 has to go "v" meters per second, how fast would m_1 need to go right before they collide?
3. F=-kx, and F=ma, so the spring provides an acceleration to m_1 when released. How does this affect m1's speed
 
oneplusone said:
Here are some useful things which I will leave for you to find (if you get stuck, ill show you how).

1. How fast does m2 have to go? (Kinematics)
2. If m2 has to go "v" meters per second, how fast would m_1 need to go right before they collide?
3. F=-kx, and F=ma, so the spring provides an acceleration to m_1 when released. How does this affect m1's speed

Doc Al said:
Ask yourself: How fast must m2 have been going to land at point C?
Thanks for hints!
 
oneplusone said:
Here are some useful things which I will leave for you to find (if you get stuck, ill show you how).

1. How fast does m2 have to go? (Kinematics)
2. If m2 has to go "v" meters per second, how fast would m_1 need to go right before they collide?
3. F=-kx, and F=ma, so the spring provides an acceleration to m_1 when released. How does this affect m1's speed

Got it. I applied energy conservation law at step 3 and got the x equals 5.8cm
Thanks a lot!
 

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